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Old 06-27-2008, 01:31 PM   #841
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Hey I'm not saying it works out but it is fairly common. I can sort of understand being in love in high school and wanting to start a life together by getting married though.
Oh, yeah, true. I'd say it's becoming uncommon here, but that is partly due to de facto relationships being more socially acceptable (and legally acknowledged) than over your way. Hell, my aunt and uncle aren't actually married, but because they're de facto, they have all the legal standing of a married couple, and have been together since high school (aforementioned uncle turned 50 this week). So a lot of people here will move in with their partner when they go off to university and essentially live like a couple, but not bother to get married until well into their twenties, assuming the relationship even lasts. Kate gave me the distinct impression this was socially unacceptable in many quarters of the US, and it was one of her prime arguments why we would not flat together at university.
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No one has any fucking clue what's going on at age 20 or 21.
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Ashley, I know you asked Khan for Retro Island suggestions previously, but if you didn't see this link to allmusic that I posted, you might want to check it out.

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Yeah, I went there first, made a list of bands that I liked, and double checked with her that they were New Wave. I'm almost done with my list now. I just need a couple more songs.

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Oh, yeah, true. I'd say it's becoming uncommon here, but that is partly due to de facto relationships being more socially acceptable (and legally acknowledged) than over your way. Hell, my aunt and uncle aren't actually married, but because they're de facto, they have all the legal standing of a married couple, and have been together since high school (aforementioned uncle turned 50 this week). So a lot of people here will move in with their partner when they go off to university and essentially live like a couple, but not bother to get married until well into their twenties, assuming the relationship even lasts. Kate gave me the distinct impression this was socially unacceptable in many quarters of the US, and it was one of her prime arguments why we would not flat together at university.
Marriage is half religious, half legal here.

I think it's something that should be desired, just something that requires time and effort first. I mean, weddings and funerals are the two biggest gatherings of friends and families in your life, and ... well, yeah, you can tell the differences between those two things.
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I was barely 23.
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I was barely 23.
But how long had you been together?

I don't literally mean "no one" but it's rare that people know what they're doing. And you can usually tell whether they're prepared or not.

Maybe I'm a bit cynical about it: of my parents' only siblings to get married that young, 2 of 3 ended in messy divorces.
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No one has any fucking clue what's going on at age 20 or 21.
Yeah, and I think one of my friends is stunningly illustrating that right now. She's one of my longest friends and the only one actually engaged. She's about to turn 21. Last year, in about April, she met this guy and fell for him straight away. Head over heels. By June, he had proposed. She was still 19 at the time. They're getting married in November this year, I think.

She's rather busy now and I don't talk to her that much, maybe once a week. But almost every time, there seems to be some kind of argument or dispute or tension between her and her fiancee. I've noticed this pattern developing since about February. She is still absolutely convinced he's the one, etc., etc., but warning signs are going off everywhere for me. I've tried to say things delicately, but the hints haven't got through and I'm a bit nervous to say anything more overtly.
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Oh, yeah, true. I'd say it's becoming uncommon here, but that is partly due to de facto relationships being more socially acceptable (and legally acknowledged) than over your way. Hell, my aunt and uncle aren't actually married, but because they're de facto, they have all the legal standing of a married couple, and have been together since high school (aforementioned uncle turned 50 this week). So a lot of people here will move in with their partner when they go off to university and essentially live like a couple, but not bother to get married until well into their twenties, assuming the relationship even lasts. Kate gave me the distinct impression this was socially unacceptable in many quarters of the US, and it was one of her prime arguments why we would not flat together at university.
Personally, I would want to be with a person and get married down the road. Why be apart because of social pressures? It is sort of romantic being two against the world.
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My mother was 32 and my father was 27 when they were married. They'd been together for four years.
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Yeah, and I think one of my friends is stunningly illustrating that right now. She's one of my longest friends and the only one actually engaged. She's about to turn 21. Last year, in about April, she met this guy and fell for him straight away. Head over heels. By June, he had proposed. She was still 19 at the time. They're getting married in November this year, I think.

She's rather busy now and I don't talk to her that much, maybe once a week. But almost every time, there seems to be some kind of argument or dispute or tension between her and her fiancee. I've noticed this pattern developing since about February. She is still absolutely convinced he's the one, etc., etc., but warning signs are going off everywhere for me. I've tried to say things delicately, but the hints haven't got through and I'm a bit nervous to say anything more overtly.
That's rough. It is nice she has a friend like you though.
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That's quite helpful, although I disagree with a few of their choices. Wire?
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No one has any fucking clue what's going on at age 20 or 21.
I don't think age matters that much. You should be open in a relationship and find the right guy/girl. Tell them you will always care for them and always be there for them. That's the main building block in a relationship.
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That's quite helpful, although I disagree with a few of their choices. Wire?
I couldn't believe I saw U2 on a few lists
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But how long had you been together?

I don't literally mean "no one" but it's rare that people know what they're doing. And you can usually tell whether they're prepared or not.

Maybe I'm a bit cynical about it: of my parents' only siblings to get married that young, 2 of 3 ended in messy divorces.
My parents were married at 19 and 21, and I think it could've worked. They were married for ten years before things fell apart, but I think that had a lot more to do with problems with my dad then the two of them ever falling out of love with each other, but I don't know.
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