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Old 06-26-2008, 11:24 PM   #196
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We should be boycotting everything from Zimbabwe, you fool!
Unless it's made by MDC supporters, in which case we should grab some really big speakers and play it at full blast outside every Zimbabwean embassy in the world.
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Yeah, exactly. The same thing goes for sexism. It does piss me off that almost all the music I own is probably by white males, but it's not by design in the slightest. I listen to music based on how it sounds to my ears, not what the race or sex of the musician is.
I gotta say, due to some folks here discussing it, gender is often in the back of my mind when making lists, though I rarely act on it. There's a current list I started up tonight that has three female singers already. But, again, it's not intentional.
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:25 PM   #198
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You missed the part where I said everyone needs to explore more.
I'm curious. Why don't you heed your own advice here? And I don't only mean in the musical sense. I mean in life in general. Before telling people how they should think or feel, or saying that you have a lot to teach people, maybe you should live, explore, and learn more about yourself and the outside world.

Just a thought.
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I must admit i've only heard individual songs.

Having a look on Wikipedia the songs i like the best that i've heard are on The Man Who.
Cool. That holds consistent with the general consensus. The Man Who it is then.
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We should be boycotting everything from Zimbabwe, you fool!
fine, if you only want to include white boy rock, then go ahead and boycott zimbabwe music.

(i already know everyone's entries will suck btw)
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fine, if you only want to include white boy rock, then go ahead and boycott zimbabwe music.

(i already know everyone's entries will suck btw)
Sometimes I almost prefer the kind of criticism he brought to the table over the pat on the head people usually give. "Oh, it was nice! I especially liked tracks ____, ____, and ____. But yeah...I won't be voting for you. Sorry."
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I gotta say, due to some folks here discussing it, gender is often in the back of my mind when making lists, though I rarely act on it. There's a current list I started up tonight that has three female singers already. But, again, it's not intentional.
Personally, what bugs me is not so much that the music I own typically lacks a female presence, but that the genres my ears like seem to develop scenes dominated by males. I can see why there aren't too many women in metal outside of goth metal (and I wish the mysogynistic sides of metal would fuck off and stop making the genre as a whole look so juvenile). But I can't quite fathom why, say, prog is so dominated by men. At least the Dunedin Sound had its share of prominent female musicians.
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Unless it's made by MDC supporters, in which case we should grab some really big speakers and play it at full blast outside every Zimbabwean embassy in the world.
They do have a mean version of Everlasting Love
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We should be boycotting everything from Zimbabwe, you fool!
Actually, everything Mugabe.

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You know, there we 20,000 lightning strikes around New Zealand two nights ago.
I'm still thinking Mugabe, and the possibilities of 20,000 lightning strikes.
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Heh, that's a cool way of putting it. I think Screwy does mean well, and that's largely why I converse with him as I do instead of just joking around like I usually would. I want him to turn things around.
Yeah, I certainly think he means well too, so I hope I don't want to come across as being too harsh. And great post by AoD.
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Personally, what bugs me is not so much that the music I own typically lacks a female presence, but that the genres my ears like seem to develop scenes dominated by males. I can see why there aren't too many women in metal outside of goth metal (and I wish the mysogynistic sides of metal would fuck off and stop making the genre as a whole look so juvenile). But I can't quite fathom why, say, prog is so dominated by men. At least the Dunedin Sound had its share of prominent female musicians.
Yeah, I don't understand what makes prog rock so masculine. Hell, first wave prog had men prancing around in tights, blowing on pan flutes. Good Lord.
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Actually, everything Mugabe.



I'm still thinking Mugabe, and the possibilities of 20,000 lightning strikes.
But Mugabe has a great song, "20,000 Lightning Strikes Won't Boycott Me"
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Sorry, I was just lurking in this thread, after posting in the Coldplay thread disaster.

Axver, that's a superb and brutally honest post. Unfortunately, it's also well-deserved, Justin. After reading some of your posts, and your reactions to them, I'm actually concerned for you as a fellow human being. You seem to be seeking validation in others here, but then preying on their weaknesses, knowledge, or shortcomings if they don't somehow meet your level of musical expertise.

After sharing a few emails with you regarding the old Space Moon playlists, I sensed your genuine passion for the songs, creating themes, and so on. The key for you now, is to find that theme in your own life, where you aren't attention-seeking, or judgmental of others' tastes. You seem to have a big heart underneath it all. Perhaps you have a fear of not measuring up to your OWN expectations, and that's normal. To project that to others, to the point where you insult them, is not.

Good luck in finding yourself...and being true to yourself. I have faith that you can do it.
Thanks. I appreciate the concern. I am trying to be a better human being.
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Yeah, I don't understand what makes prog rock so masculine. Hell, first wave prog had men prancing around in tights, blowing on pan flutes. Good Lord.
Exactly.

Though, first wave prog had Jon Anderson. It didn't NEED women.
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You may not feel you insulted him, and in light of your explanation I see where you're coming from, but I think in cases like this, the feeling of the recipient trumps the intent. You didn't deliberately insult him, but you accidentally did, and I hope you're man enough to acknowledge that.

And I don't think it's fair to single him out. Hell, every time I go on one of my music binges, I feel like I'm discovering music all over again. I don't know if I could ever reach a point where I would consider myself any more than a musical n00b.
Well I apologize to Pfan.

I am actually sort of jealous of Pfan in a way because he is discovering so much wonderful music for the first time. I think we would all love to relive hearing certain albums for the first time again.
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