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Old 03-13-2008, 10:28 AM   #901
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... I know. I'm embarrassed about it, but why hide it? I was uninformed. I didn't know anything about religion, and I took the Christianity they presented to me to be "the" Christianity. As soon as I became aware of the diversity within Christianity, things changed rapidly.
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Haha, wait, I didn't even notice that Left Behind was that series.

Oh well, doesn't change how I see you.
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Old 03-13-2008, 10:31 AM   #903
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Me too, totally. It's the unfulfilledness that keeps me curious about theology and spirituality in general - I'm not necessarily looking for something to believe in, I don't think I necessarily NEED to believe in something, but I'm still curious.
For me, I find theology deeply interesting as a subject of study socially, politically, and historically. I'm not necessarily looking for something to believe in either. I don't really want to believe in anything, or to affirm strong atheism. I find agnosticism to be wonderfully intellectualy honest and open. It really satisfies my curiosity and doesn't lock me into anything.
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You should all check out the Brick Testament by the way - it includes some absolutely hilarious takes on the Torah laws!
I must quote this for SuperWin. The Brick Testament seriously cracks me up.
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That being said, I do base my style off him - it's fairly minimalist, and it focuses on going along with, and being a part of the song rather than forming its own part. That, of course, is because as a drummer I am Phail Collins, and probably not even as good as he was.
I do think there's a difference, however, between Larry's very effective minimalism of the early eighties, and his dull, plodding style of recent years. I feel like he's gone from trying to serve the song, to just being there and little more.

For all my prog habits, my guitar style is (was?) more minimalist than anything.
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I love how Lego God's face has angry eyebrows.
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From what I've heard, there are loads of "accidental" mis-translations.... the very fact that someone has sat down and picked and chosen from loads of contemporaneous texts about what is Bible-worthy and what is blasphemy, makes me doubt a lot of those sort of things in the Bible. I mean, in a literal historical sense, as well as a religious one. The fact that I doubt the existence of God and all that doesn't stop me from accepting that some of the events in the Bible may well have actually happened, in some form.
My favourite mis-translation is turning the Reed Sea into the Red Sea. Apparently it looks similar not just in English! And it has had huge bearings on the story of Moses.

And ha, now that this thread is quieting down now, I'm starting to look like a postwhore as I catch up and get shitloads of posts in a row.
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We're going to look like the absolute strangest group in the world, sitting around the Botanical Gardens or whatever with a picnic basket, a cd player blasting U2, several religious texts and a lot of discussion!

And that's not even mentioning our disparate ages, looks and personalities!

That couldn't possibly be any cooler.
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... I know. I'm embarrassed about it, but why hide it? I was uninformed. I didn't know anything about religion, and I took the Christianity they presented to me to be "the" Christianity. As soon as I became aware of the diversity within Christianity, things changed rapidly.
See, I scratched my head and rolled my eyes a while ago when I heard about atheist families sending their kids to sunday school or whatever for atheist education, but this makes a case for it.
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That couldn't possibly be any cooler.
I think people will walk past and be completely jealous. Because we'll be having a rocking time, and they're not invited.

Also, I must post this:



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Ah, then I hope I don't disappoint you. I'll be sure to touch up on any knowledge, bring some books along, and such.
I was just starting to have the hought that I hope I don't disappoint you guys! I always fear that my phrasing in person is never as good as when I sit down and write, and that I don't seem quite as intellectual. Probably baseless, but hey, that's what being an overthinker does!

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I actually have no idea what UDLs even are anyway!

As for my experiences with alcohol, beyond wine all I really know is that I haven't enjoyed the beers I've tried, but that's just been Kiwi and Aussie stuff, and that I hate straight rum. I have tried a couple of other alcohols but I can't remember them now. Sad, huh? I know my wine, but forget anything else.
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See, I scratched my head and rolled my eyes a while ago when I heard about atheist families sending their kids to sunday school or whatever for atheist education, but this makes a case for it.
Heh. I grew up in a non-religious context, not even an atheist one per se but just in a context where religion was not on anybody's radar. Honestly, my experience with Left Behind-style Christianity was an accident of circumstances. When my friends tried to convert me, I was still trying to adjust to life in Australia. Had I not felt like something was missing in my life and if Aussie primary school hadn't been so hard on me, I would have probably thought twice about things. But they seemed to be offering me something better, and in desperation, I jumped in. And jumped out as soon as I realised what bullshit was going down!
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Can somebody tell me what the fuck is up with Luke 14:26?

"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple."

Or should we save it for The Day?
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For some reason I find "apatheists" and "ignostics" to be amusing... never heard those terms before.

Ignostic: Dude, I'm so ignorant. I don't know SQUAT. I can't make any sort of decision about God!
Apatheist: ... Meh.


Though actually, that's not quite what ignosticism is. I'm rather fond of ignosticism, not that I (currently) self-identify as an ignostic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticism

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It can be divided into two related views about the existence of God.

The first view is that a coherent definition of God must be presented before the question of the existence of God can be meaningfully discussed. Furthermore, if that definition cannot be falsified, the ignostic takes the theological noncognitivist position that the question of the existence of God (per that definition) is meaningless. However, the answer to the question may not be meaningless; it simply depends on the meaning of the question.

The second view is synonymous with theological noncognitivism, and skips the step of first asking "What is meant by God?" before proclaiming the original question "Does God exist?" meaningless.
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I'm not sure! I'll e-mail Melissa tomorrow to see what's happening. Though given how hot it will be ...

Maybe we could at least do something air conditioned? I would like to meet up in some way, get out of the house and all. Mum and Alan went back to the Gold Coast earlier and I'm feeling a bit lonely at home right now.
Sounds good! I'm up for more scaring people with unceasing U2 (or theology!) chatter in DFO's food court, if we run short of ideas
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