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Old 06-01-2008, 11:33 PM   #511
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Also, I've never had much of an issue with Boy's production. It's funny and sad that it sounds better than albums like JT, Achtung, and HTDAAB.
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Producers, turn up the damn bass. Listen to Boy and tell me you shouldn't. It propels the record.
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I don't know what I was hearing in 2004. Maybe my hearing's just improved a lot since then or I know what to listen for or something. Because it's absolutely undeniable from a technical perspective that the worst produced U2 album is HTDAAB. It's the whole "loudness wars" thing. The clipping on Crumbs is all the proof I need. I know when I bought the album, I wasn't aware of this sort of stuff and just thought the clipping on Crumbs was due to a slightly defective CD on my end.
i hate loudness wars. you know what's awesome? there's a satellite station i listen to often that sounds LOWER than the rest.

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I don't know what I was hearing in 2004. Maybe my hearing's just improved a lot since then or I know what to listen for or something. Because it's absolutely undeniable from a technical perspective that the worst produced U2 album is HTDAAB. It's the whole "loudness wars" thing. The clipping on Crumbs is all the proof I need. I know when I bought the album, I wasn't aware of this sort of stuff and just thought the clipping on Crumbs was due to a slightly defective CD on my end.
That's my favorite track on the album and I don't know what clipping is. I've listened for defects and haven't heard any.
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i was about to say that

unfortunately i think ab and zooropa need a remaster only cuz they sound so...muffled i think. zooropa especially. atyclb sounds fine, it just sucks
Eh, ATYCLB does need a bit of work, though since I never play it, I can only think of Beautiful Day's guitar sounding like shit, like the higher notes are being played down a really tinny, low quality telephone line. But yeah, off memory it's produced better than Achtung and Zooropa. I have more of a problem with Achtung, simply because songs like Zoo Station and UTEOTW would be so much better if the production weren't so dire.
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AGREED.

Producers, turn up the damn bass. Listen to Boy and tell me you shouldn't. It propels the record.
Turning the bass up has never, ever been a problem from my standpoint.
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I don't know what I was hearing in 2004. Maybe my hearing's just improved a lot since then or I know what to listen for or something. Because it's absolutely undeniable from a technical perspective that the worst produced U2 album is HTDAAB. It's the whole "loudness wars" thing. The clipping on Crumbs is all the proof I need. I know when I bought the album, I wasn't aware of this sort of stuff and just thought the clipping on Crumbs was due to a slightly defective CD on my end.
All I listen for is whether or not the instruments are mixed properly. On AB, they're not. On HTDAAB, they generally are.

It is too damn loud though. This is a fact.
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I don't know what I was hearing in 2004. Maybe my hearing's just improved a lot since then or I know what to listen for or something. Because it's absolutely undeniable from a technical perspective that the worst produced U2 album is HTDAAB. It's the whole "loudness wars" thing. The clipping on Crumbs is all the proof I need. I know when I bought the album, I wasn't aware of this sort of stuff and just thought the clipping on Crumbs was due to a slightly defective CD on my end.
Our reactions were normal. I mean c'mon. 4 Years between albums?, We'd been waiting. Ever since we got that little 5 second snippet/preview of Vertigo....and then the beach clips before that. Maybe we believed Bono's hype?.

I just think. I know its in my case. i've gone out and discovered a lot of new/different music. And I've gone from being basically "centered around U2 for 4 years", to opening my eyes to a whole new world!

The new album might have the same reaction when it leaks, it might not. I know i'll be jumping out of my skin again when track 2 is leaked (well we'll already have track 1, the lead single weeks in advance )
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AB kills Edge's guitar. See: Zoo Station, EBTTRT, UTEOTW, TTTYAATW, LIB.

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That's my favorite track on the album and I don't know what clipping is. I've listened for defects and haven't heard any.
I've noticed it from the very first listen, but as I said, initially thought it was due to a defect on my CD. It's quite noticeable in the intro.

Also, I can't stand how Bono sounds every time he sings the letter 's' in Crumbs, simply due to the production.
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Turning the bass up has never, ever been a problem from my standpoint.


What would Out Of Control be without its kickass bass intro? On Achtung, it would just be this grungy mess with a guitar surfacing from the murk just in time for the drums to kick in.
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Well, I'm out for the night.

By the time I'm back, Ax will as usual be the only one around.
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Eh, ATYCLB does need a bit of work, though since I never play it, I can only think of Beautiful Day's guitar sounding like shit, like the higher notes are being played down a really tinny, low quality telephone line. But yeah, off memory it's produced better than Achtung and Zooropa. I have more of a problem with Achtung, simply because songs like Zoo Station and UTEOTW would be so much better if the production weren't so dire.
how to fix atyclb and htdaab: make them out of print
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