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Old 02-28-2003, 05:03 PM   #16
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so, i dont ask you to change your tune, just consider these points as well........ also.... Ryan and Bryan are as similar as Willie Nelson and Michael Bolton.....or something like that
You're right about that... I dont like any of them, hehehehe

I know what you mean though, I apologize for my over-generalizations. I was just trying to make a point.
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Old 02-28-2003, 05:31 PM   #17
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To me, the whole "alternative country" thing kinda seems like a bogus genre to me. It doesnt seem either "alternative" or "country". It seems like pop. Most of those songs/artists are about as country as Elton John and as alternative as Shania Twain. In my book Ryan Adams IS Bryan Adams.
The "alt" in alt-country doesn't refer to "alternative" as in the genre of music ostensibly opposed to mainstream music. Rather, it indicates that this is non-establishment country music. As in, it's an "alternative" to the crap that Nashville pours out on a regular basis.

As for it not sounding like country, I'll freely admit that a lot of the artists considered alt-country really don't sound very country anymore. Uncle Tupelo did in it's day and Wilco did at the beginning, but their sound has changed. As for Ryan Adams, have you listened to Heartbreaker at all? Or to any Whiskeytown? Those sound pretty country to me. I'll admit Gold is quite poppy, but his earlier stuff has a definite country feel to it.

In any case, I don't think most of these artists chose to label themselves as alt-country in the first place. Jay Farrar and Jeff Tweedy didn't wake up one morning and be like "hey! let's start a genre of music! let's call it alt-country and make music within it's confines forever and ever!" So it's not really fair to accuse the movement of being bogus just because the artists that are (or used to) be a part of it have evolved their sound.


Edit: And now you had to go edit your post and apologize and make my post sound annoying and pissy. Oh well, I'll leave it anyway.
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They are re-releasing all of Uncle Tupelo's albums in a couple weeks. My roommate got copies of them already. Fantastic.
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They are re-releasing all of Uncle Tupelo's albums in a couple weeks. My roommate got copies of them already. Fantastic.
!?!??!?! He/She has them already??? That's so cool!
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In any case, I don't think most of these artists chose to label themselves as alt-country in the first place.
I know what you mean. Most all of these "genre classes" kinda group together artists who sometimes shouldt be grouped together. The alt-country and emo genre's specifically are a little odd in my taste. It seems like pretty much any artist who gets labeled under those genre titles usually cant figure out why, and doesnt like being labeled that way.

PS - Your post didnt sound pissy at all, you made really good points.
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I listened to Wilco - YHF today because this thread got me thinking about it. I actually really like about 4 songs on it.

I'm Trying to Break Your Heart, and Reservations are my favorites.

I still dont think it's the most exciting or hype worthy album around, but it did sound better than I remembered it.
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popmofo,

I wasnt trying to convert anyone with my statements but its nice that you gave it a listen and even liked ole Wilco a bit as well, my moto is that if you listen to lots and lots of different types of music, (even some you dont care for), you will end up finding some that you do like. And when you revert back to your old favorites, you will like those even more!

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I listened to Wilco - YHF today because this thread got me thinking about it. I actually really like about 4 songs on it.

I'm Trying to Break Your Heart, and Reservations are my favorites.

I still dont think it's the most exciting or hype worthy album around, but it did sound better than I remembered it.
I'm glad I hadn't heard much of they hype about the album when I first listened to it. At the time, it was just some album a friend had recommended. Not that this somehow made it a better album, but I was able to listen to it for what it was. I dunno. I tend to like albums more if I'm freed from outside expectations of liking them. If that makes sense...
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Talk about hype, looks like Rolling Stone is jumping on the bandwagon.....only about 15 years too late......they gave the re-issue of Anodyne 5 stars....


Review for Uncle Tupelo's Anodyne
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http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record...el-march.shtml

Pitchfork reviews the reissues.....
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Still Be Around
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Still Be Around

(again, thanks to Mirrorball Girl)
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That's one of my favorites, too, Joyfulgirl. (Hence, it made it onto the compilation!)

Ahh, Pitchfork. Snarky. But somewhat informative.
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Best. Song. Ever. I think it's my favorite UT song, actually. One of the few songs on this earth that has brought me to tears...
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I listened to Wilco - YHF today because this thread got me thinking about it. I actually really like about 4 songs on it.

I'm Trying to Break Your Heart, and Reservations are my favorites.

I still dont think it's the most exciting or hype worthy album around, but it did sound better than I remembered it.
It was kind of a sleeper for me. I bought it based on hearing I'm Trying to Break Your Heart, plus hearing a Wilco song around here and there and having a general affinity for alt-country anyway. When I got YFH I thought, eh, ok, won't get much play around my house though. Then all of a sudden it kicked in and I can't stop listening to it. This morning I had "I'm the Man Who Loves You" on a continuous loop. I'm kind of in love with that song.

Anyway, just an excuse to *boost* this thread.

Am buying the UT anthology very soon.
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Just got the UT anthology too. Great, great stuff. I agree with what JG said about YHF. I swear, I've fallen in love with this album. I could gush about it for hours, but I'll spare ya'll. "Kamera" "Radio Cure" Jesus,Etc" "Heavy Metal Drummer" are such beautiful songs. "Poor Places" too.
I also just bought the Wilco DVD "I Am Trying To Break Your Heart" by SAm Jones. It's a great companion piece to YHF. A great behind the scenes look at the making of the album, it's rejection from Reprise, and the firing of longtime member Jay Bennet. Very tense, but beautifully shot in b&w.
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