UFO's--real or hoax?

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I'm interested in what people think of the whole idea of UFO's, whether or not they are real or a hoax or a bad joke or what? I wasn't sure whether I should put this in LS or FYM. Apologies if this is the wrong forum.
 
I believe that there is life out there somewhere...whether it comes in flying saucers i have no idea.

Who knows, aliens might already be here, but in a form that our eyes can't see......just food for thought. :coocoo:
 
I believe they could be real. I always thought the chance of life out there is better than the chance there is none, and who's to say they aren't smarter than us and found us first? I know a lot of people who believe we have found some but the gov't will not tell anybody out of fear of panic (no particular president, everybody since Roswell) Area 51 seems just too fishy to me. I think something is there. When people ask for access to the gov't papers and 90% is blacked out, that makes it look like they're hiding something :eyebrow:

So I do believe there have been some real ones, but also some were hoaxes or other things sometimes too. They keep discovering more planets all the time now, and it's very exciting. The more we find, the better the chances we'll find aliens!

What about the Marfa lights in Texas? People have tried to write those off as car headlights or reflections, but how come the cowboys saw them years before there were cars, and the Native Americans saw them years before there were any trains?

Some things just can never be explained.
 
IMHO, I think there are extra-terrestrials somewhere out there. As for UFO's...sure, why not :drunk:

The best reasoning for this belief comes from the book "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn (a really intriguing piece of work, I might add). Anyhoo, an interesting event is hypothesized, whereby an interview with a jellyfish is established millions of years ago (during the time when jellyfish were the most advanced species on the planet). The jellyfish and the interviewer discuss a few concepts, mainly dealing with the world and all it's inhabitants. From the jellyfish's p-o-v, there is no world outside of the water, and they are the end-all, be-all of existence. Of course, millions of years later, if someone were to ask us these questions, we would roughly give the same responses.


...just a little food for thought :scratch:
 
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We've seen some pretty weird things in our sky...

We're not terribly far from NORAD and see fighter jets, helicopters, etc., alot. Every once and awhile, we see something a bit...inexplicable.

So, yeah, I totally think they are UFO's. :wink:
 
I'm not sure about UFOs. I haven't studied them enough to have an answer either way. I'm open to possibilities though....

Ghosts I DO believe in.
 
I believe there is life out there somewhere but Im not all that convinced by the evidence of ETs bottom probing hick farmers.

I watched a documentary on UFOs once where it was stated that in the 1800s there were many angel sightings. In the 1900s the number of angel sightings dropped dramatically but there was a tremendous amount of UFO sightings instead.

So, over time, people witness "things", its just how the popular culture of the time interprets these "things" that differs.

What are they seeing? I dont know.
 
The possibility of other "life" out there is pretty much an almost absolute. Is there intelligent life WAY out there, probebly. Are they visiting Earth and do they resemble humans, I doubdt it.

U.F.O's definately exist to the general public. I believe that 85% of the time its top secret military operations (which explains the blacked out sections of the government documents mentioned above). 7% of the time it some type of natural ocurring phenomena in the environment. 8% of the time its a deliberate hoax.
 
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UFO's do exist. i've seen them myself :wink: :laugh:
or rather i've seen an Unidentified Flying Object which is what UFO stands for.

now whether there's actually life out there or little green men in space ships? i don't know about that, i've never seen anything like that. but i firmly believe that there has to be some sort of life out there besides us, especially with all these new planets they're finding. the odds are against there NOT being life out there, even if it is some sort of little ameba or begining life forms some where.

is there intelligent life out there? i'm not so sure about that. at least if there is intelligent life that can communicate, like us, i'm not so sure we may even be able to reach it in our lifetime with our technology.

i think a lot of 'UFOs" are actually test aircraft for the military, i.e. the stealth bomber would have looked totally alien to us if we'd seen it flying in the sky years ago. also some of the UFOs may be natural phenomena like the Marfa lights.
 
That's interesting about the angel sightings in the 1800's and more recent UFO sightings. I once asked a question about UFO's in the Middle Ages on a historical listserver, if there had been any concept of them. The general opinion was they did not have any concept of UFO's, but rather interpreted every strange occurance in the sky as some sort of warning from God.
 
So in our intellectual evolution, cynicism takes over and we renounce God as the culprit and blame a new species.

Cynicism eats cynicism though.
Who knows.
 
Can't say I've ever seen one but I definitely do think that certain precentage of UFO sightings can't be explained. And I wouldn't dismiss the chance of extra-terrestrial life, even if it's just in the form of viruses or bacterias.

(Charles Berlitz wrote interesting books on that topic)
 
Niamh_Saoirse said:
Excuse my ignorance, but what are the Marfa lights? I've never heard of them :huh:
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You are NOT ignorant, they are a weird story from American folklore and I'm sure a lot of Americans have not heard of them either. I have because I've always been into 'weird' stuff.

Here's a link to some info:

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/MM/lxm1.html

http://www.watchingyou.com/marfa.html

http://www.crystalinks.com/marfa.html

http://disc.server.com/discussion.c...342;title=Big Bend National Park/Marfa Lights

BTW congrats on GOLD in soccer and basketball! :happy:
 
i definitely believe that there is other life out there, and i think it's very egocentric to think otherwise.

as far as UFO's, there are just so many eyewitness accounts to suggest that we have been visited by aliens. not denying that a good majority of these eyewitness accounts were false, but i've read many and many of stories that have been backed by both witnesses and physical evidence.

it's a scary thought, but it seems as if the "sightings" have been rapidly increasing since the 1940's. obviously, once again, social trends may also play a part in this, but it makes you wonder if we're getting closer to actually knowing the truth.
 
U2Kitten said:


You are NOT ignorant, they are a weird story from American folklore and I'm sure a lot of Americans have not heard of them either. I have because I've always been into 'weird' stuff.

Here's a link to some info:

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/MM/lxm1.html

http://www.watchingyou.com/marfa.html

http://www.crystalinks.com/marfa.html

http://disc.server.com/discussion.c...342;title=Big Bend National Park/Marfa Lights

BTW congrats on GOLD in soccer and basketball! :happy:
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Thanks for the links and the compliments! :wave:

We are thrilled with the Gold medals! :hyper:
 
Did anyone read that book, cant remember which one sorry? Where it was stated that the first tv broadcast was Hilter opening the Olympics in the 1940s ie the first signal to leave Earth, is Hitler.

Bummer, major big time. What an ambassador, not.
 
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beli said:
Did anyone read that book, cant remember which one sorry? Where it was stated that the first tv broadcast was Hilter opening the Olympics in the 1940s ie the first signal to leave Earth, is Hitler.

Bummer, major big time. What an ambassador, not.
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"Contact" by Carl Sagan. :)
 
verte76 said:
That's interesting about the angel sightings in the 1800's and more recent UFO sightings. I once asked a question about UFO's in the Middle Ages on a historical listserver, if there had been any concept of them. The general opinion was they did not have any concept of UFO's, but rather interpreted every strange occurance in the sky as some sort of warning from God.
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But then again, there's always these from the 14th century:

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More found here:
http://www.dudeman.net/siriusly/ufo/art.shtml
 
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