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Old 05-21-2004, 03:25 PM   #16
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Yes, that's it! Thanks! How odd, I've never read The Iliad, I didn't think I had even read excerpts. I wonder where I read it.

I really liked Sean Bean as Odysseus, maybe they'll film The Odyssey next.
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I've read quite a few negative reviews of it - I didn't think it was as bad as they said it was.

I thought Eric Bana was the best part of the movie

Somehow I wasn't really thinking about The Iliad or how historically accurate it was when I watched it

Brad's hair looked good too...
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Despite changing up most of the story of The Iliad, you do get some nice nods to literature, particularly in the cameo of Aeneas.
Yes, that was a decent cinematic prop to Vergil.

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Iliad Hollywood version

A movie made to that Brad Pitt look good and nice. Bad performances, bad direction, a superficial version of the Iliad
who can believe that Brad Pitt (very regular actor) can be a Greek hero?

I wasted valuable hours of my life
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i considered going to see troy today. there were people in line buying tickets to it, and i hate crowded theaters.

i went to see ven helsing instead.

special effects and that stuff aside, i'd rather see a movie with hugh jackman in it than brad pit.
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Old 05-21-2004, 08:48 PM   #21
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I was actually starting to read the Iliad (in french) when I first heard that they were going to make a movie about the Trojan war.

I finished the book about a week before the movie came out in theaters... but:

My book (is it just mine?) ends at the funeral of Hektor. There is no horse or anything; the war isn't over. I actually read the Odyssey before the Iliad (and it's been a while so I don't remember it that well but I do remember that it didn't start with the end of the trojan war). I knew how the trojan war ended, so I was surprised to see the Iliad (by Homer) end so soon (and it does say THE END after Hektor's funeral...)

So; is this how the book 'the Iliad' by Homer ends? It's hard to believe...

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As for the movie:

I thought it was entertaining but Brad Pitt as Achilles was terrible. He was too arrogant; we're far from the poetic conversations from Homer's incredible work

But seeing all these boats coming to Troy was still incredible!
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So; is this how the book 'the Iliad' by Homer ends? It's hard to believe...

Yeah, that's really how it ends--it isn't just your copy. I remember being slightly shocked when it ended that way.
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Ok then!
Thanks.
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the thing that pissed me off was no real mention of the gods. athena helped trick hector with achilles in order to kill hector when they ran around the trojan wall... in the movie, there was no chase around the wall, and when they showed achilles' mom, they only showed her once when he was still in greece before he departed, and you wouldnt have known that it was athena. annoying. there was no real mention of posiedan or aphrodite either.

also annoying is that paris intentionally kills achilles in the movie, when I believe it was accidental in the bookl
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Certainly a visual feast ( made much easier these days with computers. Hats off to early film makers.
I came out of the theatre thinking Eric Bana was the star Eric
I think the costume makers should win an Academy Award. I would say someone put a lot of research and love in to that side of the project.
It was a delight to see Peter O'Toole again. I've loved his acting for a long time. His retrieval of hector was quite moving.
The story unfolded quite well. I'll whisper this next bit....
as much as I love his Legolas role, I feel my dear Orlando still has to hone his acting skills. He's only a baby yet, plenty of time. I heard they may have offered him the James Bond role
The group of people in the small theatre I was in seemed to find Brad's role quite amusing. I know I couldn't stop muttering "go for the heel, go for the heel"
I saw this movie in the most unusual circumstances, so I hope to see it again before it leaves the theatres.
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I find it hysterical that Brad really hurt his Achilles tendon during filming. Oh, sweet irony!
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I heard that Brad has a nice tan in the movie. My question is- is his ass tan?
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