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Old 08-17-2006, 05:24 PM   #1
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Tom Brady on steroids

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5879838

could they possibly have them forfeit all their superbowl wins with him?

i guess the rams really did win that one
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The title and the post are misleading. Clearly, the guy is throwing around names to try to keep himself ou tof jail a little bit longer.
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even if this hearsay turned out to be true, consdiering how most NFL linemen are on some sort of illegal performing enhancers, no... i guess the rams didn't really win that one.
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what I don't understand is why is 99% of the steroids attention is focused on baseball when its obvious football is a much more likely sport to have steroid abuse.

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Commentary: Are NFL players really that clean?

By Michael Cunningham - South Florida Sun-Sentinel



Baseball is dirty.

So are track and field and cycling, which are reeling from allegations of doping against world 100-meter record holder Justin Gatlin and Floyd Landis, facing the loss of his Tour de France title.

But the NFL, with more muscled marvels than any other league in the world, is clean.

It makes little sense, but isn’t that the perception? That the players who need size and strength the most, who have even more financial incentive to cheat because of their non-guaranteed contracts, aren’t using performance-enhancing drugs?

The NFL and its players will tell you it’s because the league’s steroid policy is so tough. Dr. Charles Yesalis, a retired Penn State University professor and an expert on performance-enhancing drugs, scoffs at the notion.

Yesalis was there when NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue was all but honored by congressmen supposedly scrutinizing steroids in his sport, while baseball Commissioner Bud Selig was berated and publicly shamed.

Yesalis suspects NFL players are at least as dirty as athletes in baseball, track and cycling, if not more. So why don’t more people believe it?

“You are not going to like the answer,” Yesalis said. “Inept journalists.”

Sounded like fighting words until Yesalis explained he’s not advocating that reporters finger individual cheats (which is much more difficult than most media critics would have you believe). He just wants more skepticism about the NFL’s statements and policies on performance-enhancing drugs.

It’s not like there isn’t a basis for questioning the NFL’s policies. There are many of the same elements at play as baseball.

You have a prominent former football player, Bill Romanowski, admitting to using performance-enhancing drugs. Four Oakland Raiders (including Romanowski) reportedly tested positive for TGH in the wake of BALCO.

Dr. James Shortt, who was sentenced to prison for illegally providing steroids and human-growth hormone to patients (he’s appealing), said during an HBO interview that he treated as many as 24 NFL players.

Pro Bowl tackle Todd Steussie, a patient of Shortt’s while with Carolina, filled 11 prescriptions for testosterone cream during an eight-month period, according to prosecutors.

“So Dr. Shortt is the only doctor in the U.S. that is helping NFL players?” Yesalis said. “If you believe that, then you have to believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus.”

None of the NFL players named as Shortt’s patients tested positive for steroids, and the Raiders players didn’t get busted until after THG came to the forefront.

That suggests the NFL is behind, not at the forefront, on efforts to catch drug cheats.

Yesalis isn’t sure the testers can ever catch up to the cheats, but the NFL could at least help close the gap.

For example, there isn’t a reliable urine test for HGH now, but there would be one soon if the NFL put its financial might behind the efforts.

That, of course, would mean the NFL really wanted to catch and punish its drug cheats. The lack of testing for HGH is a major loophole in the NFL’s policy.
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In baseball, if ya saw a guy like this



people would automatically say, he's definitely on steroids, and all of his accomplishments would come into question

yet in football? it's all good, nobody cares
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football players use better stuff 'cause they've been doing it longer... so not as many guys get caught.

i'm sure there are guys in the nba and nhl, too
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football players use better stuff 'cause they've been doing it longer... so not as many guys get caught.

i'm sure there are guys in the nba and nhl, too
yeah, but you never hear a peep about it in the press. yet any baseball player who is "big" automatically gets accusations against him. why the double standard?
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yeah, but you never hear a peep about it in the press. yet any baseball player who is "big" automatically gets accusations against him. why the double standard?

Except for a few guys I don't think baseball players and football players have the same body types.
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yeah, but you never hear a peep about it in the press. yet any baseball player who is "big" automatically gets accusations against him. why the double standard?
i guess it starts because football players are supposed to be big, as opposed to baseball players
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If Tom Brady's been using, it clearly hasn't worked.
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i think its sad and pathetic that people in sports , generally in America feel the need to take steroids.

Coaches at grass root levels encourage kids to take these drugs too and i think the whole system should be ashamed of themselves.

In Britain we don't have this problem at all , and when it does occur , once in a full moon its the odd sprinter miles past its prime.

You may say in the Uk we dont have as many physical sports which is true apart from rugby where they have no pads and i cant remember a time when a rugby player has been accused of taking steroids.
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How much money do professional rugby players make in the UK?
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Way to mislead people with this thread Chizip!

Did you read this part??? I bolded it for you just in case you didn't.

"I had only one brief conversation with Tom Brady regarding a potential future workout," Anderson reportedly said in the statement to prosecutors that was included in court documents unsealed on Wednesday in San Francisco. "I never had another phone conversation with him and never discussed it with anyone."

I don't believe Tom Brady has used steroids. And no I'm not saying it because I'm a Patriots fan. This Anderson guy is a fucking slimeball.


ETA: Sorry. I'm slightly aggravated with this mess.
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What TOM BRADY IS ON STEROIDS?



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Way to mislead people with this thread Chizip!

Did you read this part??? I bolded it for you just in case you didn't.

"I had only one brief conversation with Tom Brady regarding a potential future workout," Anderson reportedly said in the statement to prosecutors that was included in court documents unsealed on Wednesday in San Francisco. "I never had another phone conversation with him and never discussed it with anyone."

I don't believe Tom Brady has used steroids. And no I'm not saying it because I'm a Patriots fan. This Anderson guy is a fucking slimeball.


ETA: Sorry. I'm slightly aggravated with this mess.
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In Britain we don't have this problem at all , and when it does occur , once in a full moon its the odd sprinter miles past its prime.
I have trouble believing that that's true.
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