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Old 07-14-2004, 08:49 AM   #1
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Monday night when I was driving to work at 9:30 I came upon what I thought was a dead moose in the middle of the road. I swung out into the other lane at the last second to avoid hitting it when my eye caught something white.....it was a sneaker. As the shock that this was a human being in the road sunk in I quickly parked my car and hopped out to help. 2 people were parked up the road running down to me and yelled out and asked me to call 911 if I had a cell phone...I did. I will never forget walking up in the darkness to the person in the road....I thought for sure he was dead. Then as I got closer I could hear him gurgling on blood and my own blood ran cold. As I was standing over the person and talking to the 911 dispatcher I saw a large dark puddle starting to pour out of the back of the person's head. I knew then just how bad the situation was.

He was riding a motorcycle, one of the fast sporty ninja type bikes....no helmet. His bike was 30 feet up the road from him, totally smashed up. There was glass and pieces of bike everywhere. His keys were thrown out of his pocket, as were his cigarrettes, the baseball hat he'd been wearing was about 10/15 feet south of him. He kept going in and out of consciousness but when he was "awake" he wasn't responsive and I can only describe the look in his eyes as the look of death. I knelt down beside him and tried to stop some of the blood and to keep him still as he was becoming somewhat combative ( the EMTs said that this is common in serious head wounds). It was dark but as I was trying to tend to him I saw that his scalp was open and it was either a large piece of his scalp hanging or it was his brain....part of me doesn't really want to know. When the ambulance finally got there they took him to the local hospital and then finally took him by lifeflight to the nearest city because his wounds were so serious. Now he is in serious condition with bad head injuries.

The police at first thought he had hit a bear but it was later determined that he had hit a moose. Seeing his injuries up close I strongly feel that he still would have been injured if he had been wearing a helmet but he would have been able to get up and walk away. I am positve of it.

So, my point.....if you ride a motorcycle please please PLEASE wear a helmet. I know some people think they are a pain in the butt or that they dont look cool or that they get in the way...or even mess up your hair. But after spending over 20 mins caring for this man...his blood getting all over me...seeing the look in his eyes...learning that he has 3 kids from somebody that knows him... I beg you all to care more about your lives and your loved ones than vanity. Please ALWAYS wear a helmet, no matter what. They really do save lives.
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Old 07-14-2004, 09:01 AM   #2
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Please dont tell me America also lacks HELMET laws.

Good lord.
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Old 07-14-2004, 10:07 AM   #3
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Poor guy.

Angie - I think some states require them but some might not. All of them should. I think it's dumb for someone to ride a motorcycle without a helmet.

I almost lost a friend when I was 15 to a motorcycle crash. He crashed into a tree (he had been drinking that night) and his face was crushed. They had to reconstruct his whole face, his leg and part of his shoulder. He was lucky to be alive
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Please dont tell me America also lacks HELMET laws.

Good lord.
Sad, but true in many places. I think bike helmets should also be required for those biking in the street.
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:59 PM   #5
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One time, I was driving a moped, and I got hit by a car. I was wearing a helmet, which ended up getting all scratched up from my head slamming onto the road. It kind of freaks me out to think about what could have happened had I not been wearing a helmet.

Sidenote to that story...the helmet I was wearing was my sister's. When I finally made it home, bruised and scraped with a tire mark from the car on my jeans (that's how close I was to getting run over), all my sister could say was, "If anything happened to my helmet, I'll kill you!"

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I'm sorry you had to see that LoveTown, but you were also a hero for staying w/ him and trying to help

God why don't people always wear helmets
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God why don't people always wear helmets
There's shouldn't NEED to be a law requiring helmets, but some people are just that stupid
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Old 07-14-2004, 05:17 PM   #8
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Helmet laws vary from state to state. The federal government has tried to blackmail states into passing helmet laws, but they're fortunately not always successful. Remember that it's easy to tell others what to do and what you think is safe, especially when it's not you doing the riding.

Helmets are illegal in cars because they interfere with hearing and peripheral vision, yet they are required on bikes in many places. Motorcycle riders are therefore required to wear something that makes them less able to hear the cars aiming for them or see hazards in the road.

LoveTown, as the wife of someone who only rides a bike, my eternal and undying gratitude to you and those who were with you as you helped that poor soul on the road. Hitting a moose with any kind of vehicle can be a fatal encounter, no matter what safety equipment one is wearing.

While hitting a moose is dangerous ( I wonder what the rider's speed was?); drinking while operating a bike is no excuse for forcing others to adopt what you think are "safe" preventatives.

No one who has posted here with warm enthusiasm for helmet laws has said whether he or she rides regularly. And by regularly, I mean all the time, not whenever the weather's good, or on weekends to the beach, or more likely, the bar. It's so easy to want to regulate the "safety" of others when what you do is not affected. It would be more in the interest of "safety" to ban driving at night where moose are free to roam, or enhance the penalties when people in cars "don't see" motorcyclists and kill or maim them, but those laws wouldn't sit well with car drivers, so instead we want to force them into potentially unsafe situations where they are required to wear helmets so we can drive while talking on the phone, eating, drinking, whatever.

I've been on the bike many times when cars aimed for us on purpose, cut us off on purpose, and changed lanes (or drifted into our lane) without looking. The classic "I didn't even see him!" comes to mind. Or my favorite "He came out of nowhere!"

So, those of you who are excited about wearing helmets, please do so. Feel free. Explain to the officer that you feel safer in your car with a helmet on. A helmet in the car might have saved my father-in-law's life in the car accident that killed him. Or maybe the girl retrieving her parking pass from the floor of her car should have been watching the road instead.
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for everyone who has lost someone, or watched someone suffer from their injuries. I've lost friends who were wearing helmets and some who weren't, from motorbikes and passengers in cars. It only takes a split second to change many lives

lovetown thanks for helping him. It could not have been easy, you were brave and if you find the memory is staying with you, talk to someone, please.
if only we could turn back time eh?
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Sorry Martha, but I disagree with you here. I also think that helmets should be mandatory for those riding motorcycles. You mention interference with hear and peripheral vision, I want to mention protecting your skull from damage.
Does one outweigh the other? How much can you hear when you're driving with 100 km/h, except from the wind blowing in your hair?

And the examples of those moronic car drivers you mention (those that tried to cut you off, etc.) are to me a good example why you have to wear a helmet. While it is of course their fault if something does happen, they do it because the have the extra safety of the car. Please, try to protect yourself so you won't suffer the severest consequences should you end up in an accident like that.

As for me, I drive every day.
In a car.
That's why I always wear a seatbelt.
Also when I'm a passenger and sitting in the back.

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I'm with Marty. There's no good reason not to wear a helmet while biking (on ANY kind of motorcycle or bike with pedals).

I've been tapped by a car riding a regular bike (I mean the pedals kind) and know someone who was hit hard and thrown over the car. In both of these situations, us bikers had the right of way. Cars are just bigger, faster, and more damaging so not matter HOW careful you are, there's always a chance someone else is not looking.

In drivers ed, the FIRST thing they tought us was to always drive defensively. The same should apply for biking - ALWAYS assume the other car might swerve and hit you, or not see you, or cut you off...ALWAYS wear a helmet. Better safe than sorry, period.

Excuse my being cliche, but two wrongs don't make a right. Just because some people do stupid things in their cars doesn't mean the laws should be written accordingly. That's like saying OSHA should no longer require hard hats at work sites b/c it's not fair for workers to have to wear a hard hat just b/c someone might screw up and hit them with a beam.

PS. Eating while driving is actually against the law here and talking on the phone is banned in other places.
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Thanks everybody for your thoughts. Yeah the memory is staying with me. It's going to take a very long time to get over it. Last night when I was driving home I was literally having flashbacks of seeing him on the road. It will pass with time though Im sure.

martha I respect what you are saying and yes helmets do hinder vision and hearing, hence why we should be trying to design better helmets. Even if he would have just had on one of those half helmets that only cover the top and back of the head like some bikers wear it would have prevented many of his injuries. There was no apparent damage to his face or forehead, it was all on the back of his head. So, I do have to argue in favor of helmet laws that say you have to wear SOME kind of head protection. As far as the cops know he wasn't drinking and speed was not a factor. It was night time, a dark moose ran out and he never saw it coming...the only skidmark was from the impact. He just slammed into it as far as they can tell.


Anyway, all debates aside. Please just take care of yourselves and all those around you.
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When you guys ride, your opinion will carry weight. Until then, please do not try to pass laws that affect me. I reserve the right to make my own choices about my body and my safety without well-meaning interference from those with no experience.
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Those of you with little to no motorcycle riding experience will be interested to read this. Maybe. The facts might interfere with some cherished opinions.

http://www.abate-of-maryland.org/xcaexprc.htm
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Old 07-14-2004, 07:26 PM   #15
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martha...I dont ever have to even so much as sit on a bike to know what that man looked like. I dont want to interfere with your rights...Im just asking people to do what they can to protect themselves. I don't pretend to have all the answers. Just be safe k?
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