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I'm looking forward to seeing Lester tonight. He looked very good in Cleveland.

Dustin Pedroia is about to have one more ring than Alex Rodriguez (and maybe a WS MVP too), and if Alex tried to elbow him in the nads again I bet DP tells him all about it too.

I do think Norbit tagged Manny on the hip, but it's interesting that he had the ball in his throwing hand, and went to tag Manny as if even he thought he'd missed the tag. And someone needs to tell Manny that you only flip the helmet off when you hit a walkoff homer.
 
A question for those of you who like to wager a bit on sports...

Hypothetically lets say you (OK me) have a pending wager of Red Sox to sweep the WS at +545 (50 to win 272.50 in fact), now that it stands 3-0, would you throw a hedge play in on the Rockies +125 in game 4?
 
I wouldn't. But I was never a hedger in my betting days, so grain of salt applies here.
 
I don't hedge solely for the purpose of hedging. But if you believe AccuScore, tonight's matchup is 50-50, meaning that the Game 4 bet itself is profitable.

The other thing going for the Rockies tonight is that if Jon Lester doesn't get through 6 innings, Kyle Snyder and Eric Gagne are likely to see multiple innings, as Francona will want to save Okajima and Papelbon to clinch Game 5 with Beckett starting.
 
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The OOTS said:
^^I think the link that Headache provided sums up my thoughts pretty well.

1. Bloated payroll - This is a BIG one. Throwing money around to BUY championships. They sign gap -filling, over-priced players like they are the Yankees. ie. Drew and Dice-K for examples. Great if it's your team - sucky for baseball teams not in NY, Boston, LA, or Chicago. Salary cap anyone??
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Yes, their payroll is high, but as you point out, it's goes beyond the Red Sox to a few other teams, so you can't single Boston out for that.

The OOTS said:
2. Superior, Aloof fans - What is it with this Red Sox Nation crap?? Where did all these bandwagoneers come from?? All of a sudden, everyone is a Sox fan? 10 years ago there wasn't this type of fanaticism...now in most visiting stadiums there are more Sox 'fans' than home team fans. Unless y'all been in hiding for the last 10+ years.. I call bullshit.
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While I agree that the Sox have their share of bandwagon fans, quite a few us, like myself, have been fans of the team our whole lives and went through years of nothing. Give us a break if we finally get to enjoy the success now.

The OOTS said:
3. Media coverage - The Yankees used to get all the press...now the Red Sox also dominate the coverage East coast..west coast..north...south..it doesn't matter. Gets tiresome watching Papelbon doing his river dance as a piece story or Manny declaring that if he doesn't care if they win there is always next year.
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It's increased over the last few years, but the Red Sox have always received an enormous amount of media coverage. There are a few other teams that get a lot of media coverage as well...

The OOTS said:
Apologies to those who've followed the Sox religiously for years and years. I'm sure you'll be reaping the rewards for years to come. But, I'm getting force fed the Red Sox from all directions and to me they are quickly becoming the new Yankees.
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Again, they always get a lot of press, so I don't see how they've all of the sudden become the Yankees in your eyes when it's been going on for a while.

I understand people get sick of hearing about them again and again, and yeah, you can blame the media for that and it can draw similarities to the Yankees in that respect, but other than that, they are nothing like them.
 
Serious line move, Rox are now +152.

Well good thing I didn't do it this morning. Still not sure if I'll do it, but the line is better now if I choose to do so.
 
phanan said:
There are a few other teams that get a lot of media coverage as well...
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When it comes to the media attention angle the worst case is the Cubs. Yeah the Sox and Yankees get a ton of media coverage, but that's because they're good. When they Sox were bad the media didn't care, you didn't see them 10 times a year on ESPN. But we get a ton of Cubs talk, whether they're relevant or not.
 
phanan said:

While I agree that the Sox have their share of bandwagon fans, quite a few us, like myself, have been fans of the team our whole lives and went through years of nothing. Give us a break if we finally get to enjoy the success now.
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This is what annoys me the most. I can't tell you how many people I know who were Blue Jays fans when they were young (when they were winning) who are now all of a sudden rooting for the Red Sox like they've been lifelong fans, then decide to rub it in my face when Boston is doing well.

There's the same thing going on here with the Patriots too, which contributes to my dislike of them as well. People who I went to school with who as kids rooted for the Cowboys or the 49ers, and now cheer for the Patriots.

It's not the lifelong fans I have a problem with. You guys realize that the team does have its ups and downs and I can respect a fan that sticks with his or her team during the lean years. It's the frontrunners I can't stand. And now that two Boston teams are doing very well (let's wait a few months before we crown the Celtics champs), and considering that they're the closest (geographically) to where I live, it's everywhere.

I can't friggin' stand frontrunner fans. But it absolutely makes me go batshit crazy when they act like king shit simply for rooting for the currently-winning team, as if they themselves directly contributed to the team's success. :angry:
 
Dallas Cowboys fans still bug me more than anything. The only time Boston fans bugged me was between the Pats Super Bowl win and the Sox World Series win.

New York and Dallas fans bug me way more than any other type. Not even close.
 
Hewson said:
Serious line move, Rox are now +152.

Well good thing I didn't do it this morning. Still not sure if I'll do it, but the line is better now if I choose to do so.
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Where? Bodoglife.com, Oddsmaker.com, Sportsbook.com all have lines in the +127/-137 neighborhood. If the Rockies are still available at +152 somewhere, there are free monies to be made.
 
DaveC said:


This is what annoys me the most. I can't tell you how many people I know who were Blue Jays fans when they were young (when they were winning) who are now all of a sudden rooting for the Red Sox like they've been lifelong fans, then decide to rub it in my face when Boston is doing well.

There's the same thing going on here with the Patriots too, which contributes to my dislike of them as well. People who I went to school with who as kids rooted for the Cowboys or the 49ers, and now cheer for the Patriots.

It's not the lifelong fans I have a problem with. You guys realize that the team does have its ups and downs and I can respect a fan that sticks with his or her team during the lean years. It's the frontrunners I can't stand. And now that two Boston teams are doing very well (let's wait a few months before we crown the Celtics champs), and considering that they're the closest (geographically) to where I live, it's everywhere.

I can't friggin' stand frontrunner fans. But it absolutely makes me go batshit crazy when they act like king shit simply for rooting for the currently-winning team, as if they themselves directly contributed to the team's success. :angry:
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So you're keeping your affinity for ASU quiet? :)

I completely agree with this post. Just cannot stand bandwagon fans...well, bandwagon fans that act like they've been there all along, especially.
 
When I was a sophomore in college a girl that I knew in our freshman year came back with a boob job. She went from a 6.5 to a solid 9. Should I have sat back and reminded her that the year before I thought she was less than a 7 or should I lie and say that I thought she was always hot and share in what ever boobie prize she won?
 
zoney! said:


I feel that the Yankees and Red Sox have both learned from the Twins and A's of the world. They have put a lot more focus on their minor league prospects in the last few years...and it is showing (Papelbon, Pedroia, Ellsbury and some Yankees I could not name).
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i feel the yankees have learned from the yankees. the mid 90s yankees were built around a strong home built core and they filled in the rest.

the a's and their moneyball can stroke me.
 
No spoken words said:


So you're keeping your affinity for ASU quiet? :)

I completely agree with this post. Just cannot stand bandwagon fans...well, bandwagon fans that act like they've been there all along, especially.
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I picked ASU when they were something like 23rd in every poll. And I've hardly been acting like I'm a lifelong fan. Should I just not ever pick a team when I get into a new sport I've never followed before? :shrug:

I could understand the point if, say, ASU loses and I suddenly start rooting for Boston College or something. I plan to stick with the Sun Devils, though.
 
I figured as much, but I thought I better explain myself in any case for any others who might not realize it as such. :up:

That said, I think you all ought to visit the "Difference between college and NFL" thread and I dare you to tell me I picked a bad team. :combust:
 
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Where have all good men gone
And where are all the gods?
Where’s the street-wise Hercules
To fight the rising odds?

Isn’t there a white knight upon a fiery steed?
Late at night I toss and turn and dream of what I need

I need a hero
I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the end of the night
He’s gotta be strong
And he’s gotta be fast
And he’s gotta be fresh from the fight
I need a hero
I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the morning light
He’s gotta be sure
And it’s gotta be soon
And he’s gotta be larger than life

Somewhere after midnight
In my wildest fantasy
Somewhere just beyond my reach
There’s someone reaching back for me

Racing on the thunder and rising with the heat
It’s gonna take a superman to sweep me off my feet

I need a hero
I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the end of the night
He’s gotta be strong
And he’s gotta be fast
And he’s gotta be fresh from the fight
I need a hero
I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the morning light
He’s gotta be sure
And it’s gotta be soon
And he’s gotta be larger than life

Up Where the mountains meet the heavens above
Out where the lightning splits the sea
I would swear that there’s someone somewhere
Watching me
Through the wind and the chill and the rain
And the storm and the flood
I can feel his approach
Like a fire in my blood

I need a hero
I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the end of the night
He’s gotta be strong
And he’s gotta be fast
And he’s gotta be fresh from the fight
I need a hero
I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the morning light
He’s gotta be sure
And it’s gotta be soon
And he’s gotta be larger than life
 
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