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Old 10-09-2007, 12:16 PM   #211
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all i know is that if carmona pitches like he did the other night that the indians have two wins right off the bat
I think this is going to be a close, and long, series.

I also think Colorado is going to hammer Arizona like a five-dollar hooker, so hopefully the ALCS gives us some close games.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:18 PM   #212
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If the red sox pitch decently they will win this series. I have seen the Indians offense go in the tank too many times this year to put a lot of stock in them.

Look at the month and a half after the all-star break. Their offense was utter shite.
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red sox fans taking joy that the yankees lost? mistaken justification... the indians are better, they should have wanted the yankees to win.
The Indians are better, but based on how the Sox did against both teams this year, it could be argued that playing the Indians is better for them. Boston was horrendous against the Yankees during the second half, yet mostly had their way against the Indians.

Then again, the Yankees swept the Indians this past season, and look what happened to them...
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red sox fans taking joy that the yankees lost? mistaken justification... the indians are better, they should have wanted the yankees to win.
I think the Yankees were the better team over the course of the regular season, but in the playoffs the importance of your #1, #2 pitchers and bullpen goes up, and the importance of your offense and #4 and #5 pitchers goes down. By that metric, the Indians were clearly the better playoff team, and it showed.

That being said, I can easily see Joe Borowski blowing a game or two for Sabathia and Carmona against the Red Sox.
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I think this is going to be a close, and long, series.

I also think Colorado is going to hammer Arizona like a five-dollar hooker, so hopefully the ALCS gives us some close games.
i can really see both LCS' going 7 games. you're selling arizona a bit short... when you're throwing webb twice, it's awfuly difficult to get hammered.

even if one (or both) of these series' are short... 4/5 games, i think every game will be close. the way i could see a series going quickly is if borowski blows a couple of games for cleveland hung low kim style.
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The one thing I AM grateful for in this post season is the chance to finally seeing these Wang apologists shut it.

He's a good pitcher. He is NOT one of the elite pitchers in the game.
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he is when the sinker sinks.

when the sinker sinks, he's average at best.
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Schilling is being moved to Game 2 to face off against Carmona. Those first two games are going to be something.
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The one thing I AM grateful for in this post season is the chance to finally seeing these Wang apologists shut it.

He's a good pitcher. He is NOT one of the elite pitchers in the game.
Are there a plethora of Wang apologists out there?

He pitches like shit in the post-season, but he helps get us there. He's not elite, but, he's not that far behind.
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all i know is that if carmona pitches like he did the other night that the indians have two wins right off the bat
Of course it'll be interesting to see Fausto pitch in Fenway where his career got off to an auspicious start last year.
His one start against the Sox was in Cle this year. Fenway might rattle the young'un come Saturday night.
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When carmona is on he throws bowling balls up to the plate.

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I don't get everyone referring to Cleveland as a small market club, they have some of the most faithful fans, and have been there for over 100 years (longer than the Yankees have been around) anyone take in a game at Jacobs Field and see the sports' press around them and then call them small market, maybe the city of Cleveland is when compared to others, but not in a sports sense.
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They are small market in terms of the size of the city. The metropolitan area of Cleveland is not even close to places like NY, Boston, LA, Chicago, or the Bay Area, just to name a few. It has nothing to do with how rabid a sports town it is.

Also, the team itself is considered small market as they don't spend nearly as much money as some others.
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