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Old 09-14-2007, 01:15 PM   #391
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where ever the heat are, they do quite well.

i'm not up on my miami geography... but one would think they would do better attendance wise if they were closer to civilization.
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Old 09-14-2007, 01:30 PM   #392
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and of course they need to not have a fire sale every 5 years.

I thought this was part of their plan. Since they know they're not pulling enough revenue to be competitive year-in and year-out, they try to cobble together just enough young players and free agents to win every 6 years, then trade them all away.
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where ever the heat are, they do quite well.

i'm not up on my miami geography... but one would think they would do better attendance wise if they were closer to civilization.
The Heat play right next to Bayside, on the water, a Faneuil Hall-esque shopping area in a nice section. No room there for a stadium though. When I think of downtown I think of closer to the Orange Bowl, not too great. There's plenty of folks a short drive from Opa Locka where Dolphin Stadium is, and the Fins sell well in the same building. The location isn't the problem. The facility isn't really great for baseball, but the summer heat and aging population are the biggest issues.
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I thought this was part of their plan. Since they know they're not pulling enough revenue to be competitive year-in and year-out, they try to cobble together just enough young players and free agents to win every 6 years, then trade them all away.
and every 6 years they draw well...

the twins and a's, for the most part, have been able to use a similar method of doing business while not completely gutting the team every 5-6 years.

then again, the marlins have two world series' in the past 10 years, where as the twins and a's can't even get out of the first round.



temporary success vs. sustained success. i suppose one could argue either way.
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The thing about the A's is they don't even draw when they win. I remember watching A's playoff games with the stadium only 2/3 full, if that. At least when the Twins are decent they seem to draw.

Then you have a team like the Orioles...great ballpark, great fanbase, and they still don't draw because they've had it with years & years of horrible ownership/management.
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Fookin' Indians CAN NOT lose.

Its like manifest destiny in reverse.
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temporary success vs. sustained success. i suppose one could argue either way.

Did someone say "success"?

I'm in!

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God dammit I wish TSN chose to run the ESPN feed of the Sox-Yanks game instead of a "tilt" (think pinball) between the two worst teams in the Canadian Football League. Watching this game on MLB Gameday doesn't quite cut it.



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You know what? I'm sick of the Sox/Yanks rivalry. Yeah it's probably cuz I'm pissed the Sox lost, but it's getting ridiculous. 4+ hour games, both offenses straight out of Nintendo (press the B button, poof, 4 runs in like half a minute). It's getting stupid.
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The Twins fired their GM? How did I miss that? I've always thought Ryan was an excellent GM, especially for a penny-pinching club like Minnesota. Marlins would be a logical fit.
Penny-Pinching? No.

Small market in a professional sport that does not "share"? Yes.

I am SURE every team would love to spend money like the Red Sox and Yankees (and Mets). Some just can't.
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Wow, the Mets are useless
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You know what? I'm sick of the Sox/Yanks rivalry. Yeah it's probably cuz I'm pissed the Sox lost, but it's getting ridiculous. 4+ hour games, both offenses straight out of Nintendo (press the B button, poof, 4 runs in like half a minute). It's getting stupid.
I was upset enough after Friday's game that I told myself I wouldn't follow today's game in any way, shape or form until it was over (being on the west coast and getting stuck with the Dodgers game helped).

I feel a lot better now.
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Cubbies, Cubbies, Cubbies....

nuff said...
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I really wish I didn't have to root for the San Francisco Giants right now
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