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Old 05-08-2007, 10:59 AM   #106
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What a douche Papi. I'm tired of that logic. Steriods won't help you hit a baseball. Bonds & other MLB players can already do that very well. What steriods along with exercise can do is help you hit it farther. And more importantly for these players, it keeps their bodies from breaking down frequently.

So now they're able to consistently perform at a top level throughout the course of a season. After a while though, the athlete's joints start to wear and tear, and they can't even walk. Look at McGuire a few years ago, and Bonds now.

I do think that steriods have helped pitchers the most. Their arm/body wears down the most throughout the year. And to be able to throw the ball with the same velocity late in the year as they do around May/June would be a huge advantage.
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i hope every player on the mets is on steroids.
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Old 05-08-2007, 03:08 PM   #108
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I'm pretty sure Sammy Sosa just grabbed the wrong bat that one time...
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speaking of el roidos, a caller on mike and the mad dog today asked a really tough question... is roger clemens waiting till the season is underway to return in order to avoid the first round of steroid testing?
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The Yanks will not trade Hughes, just like they did not trade Wang or Cano or Cabrera. However, I could see them parting with any # of their other minor leaguers to get someone around the deadline, just like they do every year. But it won't be Hughes, no chance.

As for Clemens, if he tested positive for steroids, it sure would not shock me. I am not saying that I'm convinced that he is on them or anything, but, it would not be a big surprise. And, despite me being happy that he'll help out the Yankee staff (and Headache, if he posts a 4.00 ERA I'll be pleased, though, for that $$$ they better get more than that) I really am tired of this annual bullshit with him. Fucking play or not, and fucking be on the team or not. I think it sends a shitty signal to let him skip road trips when he is not pitching. Every player with a family wants to be with their kids, but, when you agree to play pro baseball, you forfeit that right to be well compensated for playing a game, albeit at an elite level. I just have trouble with prima donna treatment for anyone, hall of famer to be or not.

Lastly, nothing is funnier than Mets or Sox fans pointing out Yankee spending habits. The Yanks spend like drunken sailors, and everyone knows it, and once upon a time they spent that $$$ wisely, and now they'll spend it on anyone and it frustrates me to no end....but, please, the Mets and Sox spend a ton and are the envy of many a smaller market team. What the Sox paid for Matsuzaka's posting fee alone is more than some team's payrolls. So, yeah, do the Yanks look silly for Igawa right about now? Damn right they do, but, they're not alone on some sort of spending island.

That all being said....Jose Reyes is awesome, what a ball player.
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speaking of el roidos, a caller on mike and the mad dog today asked a really tough question... is roger clemens waiting till the season is underway to return in order to avoid the first round of steroid testing?
I heard a theory that the reason Clemens has done the 1/2 season thing the past 3 years is to get a "cycle" in the offseason, get past the testing date and get it out of his system.
Who knows. His head has always been huge.
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Lastly, nothing is funnier than Mets or Sox fans pointing out Yankee spending habits. The Yanks spend like drunken sailors, and everyone knows it, and once upon a time they spent that $$$ wisely, and now they'll spend it on anyone and it frustrates me to no end....but, please, the Mets and Sox spend a ton and are the envy of many a smaller market team. What the Sox paid for Matsuzaka's posting fee alone is more than some team's payrolls. So, yeah, do the Yanks look silly for Igawa right about now? Damn right they do, but, they're not alone on some sort of spending island.
Granted its still quite early, but a key differnce is that the Red Sox and Mets are both in first place (Mets tied with Braves) in their divisions while the Yanks are sub .500 and jostling for postition in the standings with the Devil Rays.
So at least the Sox and Mets to date are performing like a team with a huge payroll should.
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Lastly, nothing is funnier than Mets or Sox fans pointing out Yankee spending habits. The Yanks spend like drunken sailors, and everyone knows it, and once upon a time they spent that $$$ wisely, and now they'll spend it on anyone and it frustrates me to no end....but, please, the Mets and Sox spend a ton and are the envy of many a smaller market team. What the Sox paid for Matsuzaka's posting fee alone is more than some team's payrolls. So, yeah, do the Yanks look silly for Igawa right about now? Damn right they do, but, they're not alone on some sort of spending island.

That all being said....Jose Reyes is awesome, what a ball player.
don't get me wrong... i could care less about how much money the yankees spend. i just get a chuckle at how poorly they spend it.

and i hate met fans (and red sox fans) who bitch about how the yankees are a bunch of hired guns... as if pedro martinez, carlos beltran, carlos delgado, moises alou, etc. etc. etc. were all home grown players. the difference is that the mets are doing it the way the yankees did it in the mid 90s (young home grown core with veteran's brought in around them), but they're still spending a ton and their fans have no reason to complain about anyone else.

and yes, watching jose reyes is the reason to root for just one team. sitting through all the bad years makes watching him all the more enjoyable. seeing him leg out a triple in person is one of the greatest things in sports i've ever seen. he's so fast it's unbelievable unless you see it for yourself. in fact, his speed is probably what kept him away from carlos beltran's evil hair buzzer...

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SAN FRANCISCO -- The Mets conduct scouting meetings before the first games of all series, baseball versions of X's and O's. What they had Tuesday before they engaged the Giants in the second game of their series in San Francisco was something altogether different, though it still could be appropriately identified as a skull session.
Before batting practice and evidently after little forethought, the Mets got buzzed. One by one, players tread into a room by the shower room looking quite normal, and one by one, they emerged shorn like sheep. For no apparent reason other than "they could," they had their hair reduced to boot-camp length by Carlos "The Barber" Beltran, a man of unquestioned tonsorial skill.

It was palpable peer pressure at work. All but a few conceded to the shear magic of Beltran, even Shawn Green, who had vowed to be the last man, submitted to the supposedly unifying experience. He became Shorn Green.

Jose Reyes resisted without his signature smile. Aaron Sele avoided the cut, too, noting that he would be posing for photos with his family Thursday. And Tom Glavine, the starting pitcher Tuesday night, after watching in amusement, said he would concede after the game, and he did.

But not all went willingly. Wondering about the demonstration of unity, David Newhan asked, "Can't we just pull our pants [legs] up?" After all, Newhan, Green and Jorge Sosa had the most to lose.

Indeed, Newhan had taken a seat inside his locker with only legs visible, his upper body and full head hidden behind clothes on hangers.

Finally, just before he relented -- giving in to Paul Lo Duca's promise of a dinner -- he did a brief television interview.

"His last interview as a good looking guy," Green said of Newhan.

When Newhan emerged, he looked even more like his father, Ross, the Hall of Fame baseball writer, who had the shaved look, via natural means, for a long time.

Green, who had repeatedly lost his cap in the outfield because of "all the hair," had wondered aloud how he would keep his cap and/or his yarmulke in place. And once he had a look he clearly didn't like, he asked for a new cap "four sizes smaller."

Mike Pelfrey swore he'd never remove his cap again, but not until Lo Duca decided, "Pelfrey looks like Sinead O'Connor."

Lo Duca had his head shaven on two sides for a while, but then had it done evenly, making him what one of his teammates called "The last of the Mohicans."

Moises Alou described his wife's anger: "She'll be mad I never cut it off for her, but I did it for the guys."

The whole exercise began in the afternoon with David Wright, who had his buzz-cut done by his friend and bullpen catcher Dave Racaniello. The rest was left to Beltran, although it was unclear who scalped him.

"It has nothing to do with what's going on on the field," Wright said. "It's just to change things up a little."

Some -- Carlos Delgado, Endy Chavez and Ruben Gotay among them -- already had the uniform look. And Damion Easley just reverted to his Port St. Lucie look. manager Willie Randolph keeps his hair closely cropped anyway, so he just watched. And general manager Omar Minaya didn't go looking for Beltran. Batting coach Rick Down submitted, but first-base coach Howard Johnson remained strangely invisible.

The one person everyone wanted to see in Beltran's chair, though, was pitching coach Rick Peterson, who has more hair that he has analogies.

"There's a better chance I'll punch out 20 tonight" Glavine said, "than [Peterson will] get that cut off."

"He's hiding in the outfield," Heilman said.

Billy Wagner suggested, "Let's get him. What's he gonna do, soft-toss us to death?"

And when it was nearly time to take the field for batting practice, Glavine, his graying locks untouched, found a silver lining in all the ugliness he saw before him. "At least now we won't spend any time at the mirror," Glavine said, "and the bus can leave on time."
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And only 1 million less per year than Gil Meche (and 18 miilion less than Roger Clemens)
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and 9.6 million per year more than john maine
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If Maine keeps pitching the way he has, that salary will go up dramatically.
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he'll be making gil meche money in no time
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Actually he'll still have to wait a couple of years for Gil Meche money even if he goes 33-2.
Such are the rules of MLB.
Owners have an advantage for a few years, then players get to demand $28 million, a plane, a bowl full of HGH every day and a hot asian masseuse once they are eligible for free agency.

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yea i think he's got like 2-3 more years without leverage
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