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Old 12-27-2005, 01:17 PM   #301
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With the Bungles returning to their old ways this past weekend, there is a distinct possibility that the Patriots will wind up as the #3 seed, with Cincinnati at #4.

While this would mean that the Patriots would not face the Colts until the AFC Championship game (if they got that far), I think I'd rather face the Jaguars in the first round vs. the Steelers. Perhaps in this case, the lower seed would be better.
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i got a feeling we're headed towards another colts-pats afc championship game... this one under the dome.

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i got a feeling we're headed towards another colts-pats afc championship game... this one under the dome.

I feel the same..however it will depend if the Pats can beat Miami seeing since Miami is on a tear right now. Hopefully, and probably, they will. I think a Pats/Colts game would be awesome!!! Nothing like seeing Peyton losing in front of his home fans!!!

Seriously, however, I think that would be a great game
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for those with no vested playoff interest, some early draft talk

there is always the race for Reggie Bush, folks

looks like even if the Texans win, they might get the top pick, because the tiebreaker between the 3 win teams (possibly up to 5) Niners, Texans, Jets, Packers, and Saints, anyhow the tiebreaker is strength of schedule, meaning whoever played the easiest schedule would get the top pick.

Right now that is Houston, the Niners are 3rd, I don't know about the rest but that could change by the end of next week, the SOS ratings are complicated so it's a guessing game, but I think the Niners probably beat the Texans anyway and Reggie Bush gets to play behind that absolute sieve of an offensive line.

The Jets are looking good to get Leinart.
all 4 of those other teams have a young QB in the wings or on the field, with a possible exception of the Saints, who may or may not have Brooks under contract for several years. Sure the Jets have Pennington, but he can't stay healthy and he would likely fill the void for a year or maybe two of grooming.

So Reggie Bush to Houston and Matt Leinart to the NY Jets.
I'll say the Niners draft AJ Hawk, Jimmy Williams or trade down.
The Saints and Packers, who knows? I follow the Niners and Jets pretty closely but not the others, and depsite my deep seething hatred for all things USC, I hope my two favorite NFL teams get those two guys.
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I was reading Don Banks' column on cnnsi.com, and he stated that if all five teams finish with three wins, the Saints would win the tiebreaker.

Of course, they already have Deuce McAllister, so would they take Leinart instead?

Interesting possibilities...
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the jets apparently aren't high on leinart according to a few things i've read... i'd love for them to take young from texas instead... because i think he'll be terrible in the nfl
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Why wouldn't they like Leinart? As if Pennington is so much better...

But hey, fine with me!
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i don't know i read it in a few articles that they think young is better. could be wrong... and once herm edwards bounces to go coach the chefs, the next guy may feel differently... who knows.
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I don't know who I would take first in the draft for QB's. Leinart is a proven winner, and has come up big in clutch situations.

Young has a ton of potential, but I fear he could turn in to a Aaron Brooks type player....great sometimes, really really bad most of the time.

Would Houston take Bush? They do have Davis as their running back, he's not horrible. I think Houston needs a O-Line makeover badly. They get that straightned out, and maybe a decent receiving tight end to help bail Carr out, they could be a good team next year.

Of course my team the 49ers need more than just Bush. But I'd love to see them take him if they can. Take Bush in the 1st, then with your other picks shore up the O-line and secondary.

The one steal I think in the draft will be to whoevever drafts Chad Greenway out of Iowa. He may not hit as hard as a AJ Hawk or other big name linebackers, but the guy does not miss tackles. In fact, I think he's the surest tackler in the game. He's also extremely fast and agile. I do think it'll take him a little time to adjust to the pro game though.

As for this year's playoff run. I feel horrible for Tony Dungy. I don't see how you could even come back to coach this year. I know the Colts will try to rally around this, but I think it's too much. If the Pats can get to the AFC title, game, they'll be my pick to go and win the Super Bowl.

In the NFC, if Seattle plays as well as they have been, they'll take care of business. They have a ball hawking defense, and if that defense shows up in the playoffs, they'll be very tough to beat.

I really want to see how the Colts do with their first playoff game. If they come out and set the world afire, then I think they'll win it. If they show signs of emotional tear, or wear, then I'll go with the Pats.
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i got a feeling we're headed towards another colts-pats afc championship game... this one under the dome.




then what will the colts fans say when they lose to the pats in the playoffs...again? surely there will be another excuse because the weather is no longer a factor.
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In the NFC, if Seattle plays as well as they have been, they'll take care of business. They have a ball hawking defense, and if that defense shows up in the playoffs, they'll be very tough to beat.
i cannot tell you how unimpressed i am with seattle... they've played NO ONE. they've been looking impressive by running over bad teams. now all be it, they're beating the teams they're supposed to beat and yes, i would list them as the favorite by default...

but in no way do i see them in anyway as a team that simply needs to play well and they'll roll through the NFC. their two blow out wins were against philly and san francisco... whoopity doo...

here are the teams they've played with a winning record...
at jacksonville (loss 26-14)
vs. atlanta (win 21-18)
at washington (loss 20-17 OT)
vs. dallas (win 13-10... an absolute gift of a game)
vs. giants (win 24-21... again, an complete gift)
vs. indianapolis (win 28-13... peyton manning out of the game by the 2nd quarter... meaningless game for indy as they had already clinched everything and were no longer undefeated)


to say they've been less than impressive against quality opponents would be an understatement.

the NFC is wiiiiiiiide open... i would not be surprised one bit if any of the four favorites... seattle, chicago, carolina and new york... make it to the super bowl.
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Quite frankly, there's nobody in the NFC that will beat anyone in the AFC, other than possibly Jacksonville.
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that's what most people thought about the afc when the pats beat the rams a few years back...

you're probably right, and i agree with ya... but i gotta hold out just a little bit of hope just in case the giants actually get to the super bowl
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Seattle's biggest advantage now is geography.
Its a long way to travel if you're the Bucs, Giants, Panthers, Redskins, Bears...the likely 5 other NFC teams all have huge distance to travel if they must face the Seabags, that can be a major factor, especially in the divisional round where the team that faces them (probably NYG or TB if seedings hold) will have to play the week before, then travel 3000 miles (or more for TB) to play a rested Seahag team.
I don't think the Seamonkeys are a dominant team, but they are clearly the team to beat in the NFC.

Either way, expect any AFC representative to be laying at least 7 in the Superbowl, certainly double digits if its the Colts, and possibly the highest Superbowl betting line ever(maybe 20) if it ends up Colts vs Bears or Bucs.
The NY factor will keep the line at about 14 if its Colts/Giants.
Same for Redskins.
And likely Colts would be 11 over Seattle or Carolina.
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that's what most people thought about the afc when the pats beat the rams a few years back...
No, actually in 2001/2002 the Steelers would have been favored over every other NFC playoff team and a small underdog to the Rams.
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