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Old 02-11-2006, 04:17 AM   #136
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This was at the beginning of that same Simmons article...I was thouroughly amused. I fully expected Isiah to take Kenyon too.

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First, I have a scoop for you: A well-placed source tells me that Isiah Thomas is prepared to trade Channing Frye and Penny Hardaway to Denver for Kenyon Martin and Earl Watson, but only if Martin agrees to an MRI on his surgically repaired knee. If Martin's knee is in good shape, the Knicks are calling off the deal. If the knee is in rough shape, the deal is on. If the knee is in such terrible shape that the doctor says something like, "Wow, there's a good chance K-Mart might walk with a limp for the rest of his life," the Knicks will throw in an unconditional No. 1 in 2009 as well as Nate Robinson and $3 million dollars. So stay tuned.
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Old 02-12-2006, 06:06 PM   #138
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Dwyane Wade just scored 17 points in the 4th quarter, leading the Heat from 13 down to beat the Pistons. Unreal.

On the plus side, the 70-win talk should just about be finished. I think we've all learned from the last few months that hype like this doesn't turn out well (cf. USC, Indianapolis Colts).
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Join me in laughing at the Pistons for taking Darko instead of Wade/Bosh/Carmelo.

Join me in being thankful that the Pistons took Darko instead of Wade/Bosh/Carmelo.

Wade is going to be an incredible player.

Wade already is an incredible player.
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Everyone talks about LeBron as the next Michael Jordan. Nobody will be the next Jordan. But if I picked one player who had some characteristics, it would most certainly be Wade, not James.

James has more stats like Magic Johnson.
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wade also has shaq

all be it an aging shaq who is not what he once was, but shaq none the less... the best player jordan had at this stage of his career was charles oakley... and his numbers still blow wade's out of the water.

i'm not taking anything away from dwayne wade... he's a great talent. but he's not in the same stratosphere as michael jordan.

i do agree that lebron's skills are more like magic's than michael's, though. hope he stays that way...


as for the pistons, it was inevitable that this downward spiral would begin. if you ever want to take a stab at what teams might make late runs (for betting purposes or otherwise) a good place to look is espn.com's NBA RPI standings... it'll show you a variety of rated stats, including strength of schdule... the pistons early schedule was one of the easiest in the entire NBA (the knicks was actually easier, which makes you really think about exactly how bad they suck)...

after that huge start detroit got off to, san antonio and dallas now sit just 2 and 2.5 games behind them, with the easier part of their schedules still to come. detroit has the harder part of it' schedule still awaiting them.
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Repeat, "Nobody will be the next Michael Jordan."

As for the Pistons. I think what we saw today was that the Pistons will stay the same, and perhaps Miami is starting to figure out a little chemistry. Miami will be the only team to give the Pistons a challenge, but Detroit will win the East.
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Repeat, "Nobody will be the next Michael Jordan."
Harold Miner.
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One of my favorite players on NBA live 1995.

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Repeat, "Nobody will be the next Michael Jordan."

As for the Pistons. I think what we saw today was that the Pistons will stay the same, and perhaps Miami is starting to figure out a little chemistry. Miami will be the only team to give the Pistons a challenge, but Detroit will win the East.
Miami could beat Detroit in the playoffs.
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Miami could beat Detroit in the playoffs.
Hence Detroit's attempt to trade Darko and Carlos Arroyo to the Magic for center Kelvin Cato plus a draft pick. Detroit needs another big man to play against Shaq.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2331049
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this is a great trade... for orlando.

it's not terrible for detroit... cato's contract is up at the end of the year... but they're going to use the 8 million in savings that they get from losing cato to give a 12 million dollar per year contract to a man who can't score, ben wallace... and to extend chauncey billups contract long term... so next year detroit will have 60-70 million dollars invested in their starting lineup alone, leaving them with an aging team, zero cap flexability and no first round draft pick. i do believe i saw this movie once before... around the late 90s... aging eastern conference powerhouse built on defense starts adding money to the cap while losing draft picks... hmmm... where did i see that before...

orlando, if this trade does indeed go through, now adds a 20 year old center... again, darko is only 20 years old... who's shown an ability to block shots, and actually has a decent shooting percentage when they let him play, and putting him next to a man-beast in dwight howard, who will get every rebound and handle the scoring load down low, allowing darko to run the pick and roll with jameer nelson... or if he does, in fact, suck, they just get rid of him after next season, at the same time that grant hill's 13.5 million... the summer of 2007, which just happens to be the same season that lebron james, dwayne wade, carmello anthony and chris bosh become free agents for the first time.

now if only they can get rid of stevie the franchise killer, to some desperate team who's always looking to take on bums with bad contracts... hmmm... a desperate team looking to take on bums with bad contracts... where have i seen one of them before...


the summer of 2007 is sizing up to be a bidding war, with chicago, orlando and charlotte the leaders in the clubhouse, cap flexability wise... here are some of the free agents in 2007, with their current stats and how old they'll be in the summer of '07

pg, kirk hinrich- 14.4ppg, 6.2apg - 26 years old
sf, andres nocioni- 11.8ppg, 5.1rpg - 28 years old
pf, michael sweetney- 9.3ppg, 5.9 rpg - 25 years old
sf, lebron james- 31ppg, 6.9rpg, 6.5apg - 22 years old
sf, josh howard - 15.9ppg, 6.7 rpg - 27 years old
sf, carmello anthony- 25.9ppg, 5.3rpg - 23 years old
sg, mickael pietrus - 11.3ppg - 24 years old
pg, t.j. ford - 12.4ppg, 6.5apg, 4.6 rpg - 24 years old
sg, dwayne wade - 27.0ppg, 5.8rpg, 6.1apg - 25 years old
pg, luke ridnour - 11.8ppg, 6.7apg - 26 years old
chris bosh - 22.4ppg, 9.2rpg - 23 years old
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The difference is that Detroit will be championship-caliber this year, next year, and maybe the year after that.

After that, Joe Dumars will unload the two Wallaces and Chauncey Billups on the Knicks and start rebuilding.
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detroit is championship caliber this year... maybe next year. but they are killing their bench and losing draft picks, with no cap room to add anyone.

when i say what they're doing is similar to the knicks, i'm not talking about today's knicks... i'm talking about the knicks of the mid to late 90s, who were still competing for a championship at the time, while at the same time setting themselves up for a decade in salary cap hell, which has only been made worse by scott layden and isiah thomas.

all i'm saying is that it's very dangerous to lock up so much money in just 5 players in today's NBA.
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Ben Wallace is the one I'm really worried about. Once his knees start to go, he'll be useless. Rasheed is getting old as well, but given his offensive skills, there'll be some team that will be willing to pick up his contract. Chauncey Billups is only 29 right now, so he's not as big a worry.
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