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Old 02-06-2008, 12:36 AM   #526
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So what happens if the Lions go 12-4 next year and the Giants miss the playoffs?
And maybe the Redskins will do well earlier than week 14 next season That'd be nice.

Watching 12 games of suck is never fun, and they've put me through that 2 out of the last 3 seasons, only to prolong the agony by the playoffs.
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:09 AM   #527
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From today's New York times:

Many fans held hand-scribbled signs, part of the short-hand postscript to an unexpected championship season. Promoting Manning for president was a popular idea. Some signs teased the Patriots — “18-Oh well” — or played off the spying scandal that has entangled them and their coach, Bill Belichick.

“Hey, Belichick, I hope you’re taping this,” one sign read.





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Old 02-06-2008, 08:52 AM   #528
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You know everyone is just having a jolly old time kicking the Pats and Pats fans in the (figurative) nuts over this. Personally I thought the Giants played a hell of a game, and that ought to be the focus, rather than taking shots at the Patriots.

Though it is New York fans, so I'm not surprised.

Have you guys seen the Patriots schedule for '08? It's @Colts, Steelers, @Chargers, and @Seahawks...and a bunch of crap. Granted one of the crappy teams is likely to end up being good next year with the NFL being what it is, but still that's a pretty easy schedule for a first-place team. I can't wait 'til next year...
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This is worth linking to: Bill Simmons's rules for team loyalties

When your owner employs Wayne Fontes for seven years and Matt Millen for eight, and the franchise sucks so hard that it drives Barry Sanders into early retirement, I think you can claim an exemption under rule 19e.

The Mara family have been pretty good owners throughout the history of the Giants though, so you better be committed to them.
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You know everyone is just having a jolly old time kicking the Pats and Pats fans in the (figurative) nuts over this. Personally I thought the Giants played a hell of a game, and that ought to be the focus, rather than taking shots at the Patriots.

Though it is New York fans, so I'm not surprised.

Have you guys seen the Patriots schedule for '08? It's @Colts, Steelers, @Chargers, and @Seahawks...and a bunch of crap. Granted one of the crappy teams is likely to end up being good next year with the NFL being what it is, but still that's a pretty easy schedule for a first-place team. I can't wait 'til next year...
No offense, but please....

When the Sox beat the Yanks in 2004, all I heard from Sox fans was about the Yanks choking. Shouldn't the focus have been on the Sox staging an insane comeback, the guts it took to do that, etc? Instead, everyone goes to the WS victory parade wiith "Jeter Swallows" shirts.
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I was wearing a "Jeter drinks wine coolers" shirt, thank you very much.
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so it turns out the pats cheated in the superbowl win over the rams, no big surprise, fucking cheaters
Fwiw, Michael Holley just stated on WEEI radio that he has spoken to multiple sources (unlike the original story which came from one unnamed source), and the Pats did not tape the Lambs' walkthrough in 2002. Holley is the author of Patriot Reign and Tedy Bruschi's co-author and has tremendous access to the team, staff and even coach Belichick. Plus lets not overlook this as he who rides with Lucky Day and Ned Nederlander convenienlty makes no mention of:
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NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the league investigated the claim and found no evidence of wrongdoing.
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I was wearing a "Jeter drinks wine coolers" shirt, thank you very much.
even i chuckled at that one





while i have certainly made it clear about the whole switching teams or rooting for another team thing in the past... two things.

a) if you've never really rooted for a team, just had a passing interest in your local team, it's not really that big a deal.

b) the lecture on staying loyal to your hometown team should probably come from someone from boston or chicago, not a canadian who arbitrarily decided that he was going to like philadelphia teams, eh.


i will say this... there is nothing like being a long time fan for one team and one team only, sticking with them through thick and thin, the good the bad and everything in between... and then having the ultimate pay off in the end, especially when you're least expecting it.

it's heaven


and as for the video of the giants fans celebrating... i can't talk for two reasons.
1) feagles rocks my world
2) i similarly hugged it out immediately following the final kneel down, and proceeded to jump, fully clothed, into a hot tub in celebration... in front of my boss and other coworkers, mind you.

now if you'll excuse me, i have to make sure my radio is working for the johan santana press conference.

eveything's coming up eli.
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You know everyone is just having a jolly old time kicking the Pats and Pats fans in the (figurative) nuts over this. Personally I thought the Giants played a hell of a game, and that ought to be the focus, rather than taking shots at the Patriots.

Though it is New York fans, so I'm not surprised.

Have you guys seen the Patriots schedule for '08? It's @Colts, Steelers, @Chargers, and @Seahawks...and a bunch of crap. Granted one of the crappy teams is likely to end up being good next year with the NFL being what it is, but still that's a pretty easy schedule for a first-place team. I can't wait 'til next year...
Actually, from what I have seen, Giants fans have been very graceful about their Super Bowl win for the most part, as have Patriots fans about accepting the loss.

It's the rest of the universe that hates the Patriots who have been making asses of themselves, imho.
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It's the rest of the universe that hates the Patriots who have been making asses of themselves, imho.
Yeah, the fans I met en route to (was between 2 Giants fans on the connection from Cleveland to Phoenix) and at the game were all classy, respectful and knowledgeable. During the game there was no rubbing anything into anyone's face (seating dynamic was funny, my row was 2 Giants fans, followed by 2 Pats fans, followed by 2 Giants fans, followed by a couple who the girlfriend was Pats fan, the boyfriend a Giant fan, then me and my buddy, then 2 Giants fans...and similar down the line), just everyone cheering for their team and discussing things civilly.
It does seem much of the venom is from the "neutral" fans who just wanted to see the Pats lose regardless of who the NFC representative was.
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i will say this... there is nothing like being a long time fan for one team and one team only, sticking with them through thick and thin, the good the bad and everything in between... and then having the ultimate pay off in the end, especially when you're least expecting it.

it's heaven

Yep.

Glad you're enjoying that with the Giants.
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Yeah, the fans I met en route to (was between 2 Giants fans on the connection from Cleveland to Phoenix) and at the game were all classy, respectful and knowledgeable. During the game there was no rubbing anything into anyone's face (seating dynamic was funny, my row was 2 Giants fans, followed by 2 Pats fans, followed by 2 Giants fans, followed by a couple who the girlfriend was Pats fan, the boyfriend a Giant fan, then me and my buddy, then 2 Giants fans...and similar down the line), just everyone cheering for their team and discussing things civilly.
It does seem much of the venom is from the "neutral" fans who just wanted to see the Pats lose regardless of who the NFC representative was.
a few people have reported, the "i know nothing about sports" guy among them, that the crowd at the super bowl was more into this game from a rooting standpoint... i.e. more real fans as opposed to the usual businessman & celebrity crowd... than in any recent super bowl in memory.

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I think its pretty cool that roughly 96 to 97 million people tuned into the Super Bowl. Second only to, of course, the M*A*S*H TV Series Finale 25 years ago in 1983.
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Actually, from what I have seen, Giants fans have been very graceful about their Super Bowl win for the most part, as have Patriots fans about accepting the loss.

It's the rest of the universe that hates the Patriots who have been making asses of themselves, imho.
Agreed.
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a few people have reported, the "i know nothing about sports" guy among them, that the crowd at the super bowl was more into this game from a rooting standpoint... i.e. more real fans as opposed to the usual businessman & celebrity crowd... than in any recent super bowl in memory.

agree?
From where I was sitting, absolutely.

It helped that the 2 markets represented are 2 of the more rabid sports markets in the country.
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