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Old 02-03-2008, 11:37 PM   #346
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Finally?

Yankees and Mets have OWNED the Red Sox for years (minus the last five).

1986? Bill Fucking Buckner?

Bucky Fucking Dent?

Finally?
Hey, that's 5 long years.

BTW, Bucky Fuckin' Dent went out the window in 2004. The BoSox have excorcised those demons.

NYers could easily say "David Fuckin' Ortiz".


Even though the Pats lost tonight, I still have the utmost respect for their team. I expect them to be at least in the Conference Championship game next season.
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:37 PM   #347
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Where's Headache in a Suitcase? Not here I'm sure, must be lost in a daze of parties in the NY streets. Enjoy, our friend, you deserve it.
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:41 PM   #348
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All credit to the Giants. That was an unbelievable performance. If the Patriots were going to go down, this wasn't a bad scenario. They went out to one of the great all-time Cinderella stories.

The Giants, destroyer of dreams. Travel to Tampa and win. OK, that's not such a big deal. But then they go to Dallas and win -- that's huge. Then they go to Green Bay in the sub-zero temps and beat Favre and the Packers. That's even bigger. Then they beat the otherworldly 18-0 Patriots on the game's biggest stage. Wow. As a fan of the game, I've got to say that that is SO cool.

As a Patriots fan, of course I'm disappointed, but I don't feel bad. Life goes on, and I was treated to watching what I'd say was the best football I've ever seen for so much of the season.

They're not the greatest team of all time -- they'd have had to have won the Superbowl for that. But they gave us so many thrills, so much fun.

I don't think Brady did anything to tarnish his Hall of Fame credentials. But he'll need to go a bit further if he wants to match up with Joe Montana for best ever. He's still got time, but there are no guarantees in this world.

Congratulations, Giants. You did football proud.
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:41 PM   #349
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Truce and cease-fire, OK?
Ok, and i'll even ignore your final point in the post just above this one.





Especially because i essentially agree.
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Okay, let me rant now (no response to any of these comments are needed):

FUCK YOU PATRIOTS!

- You cannot blame pumped in crowd noise.

- Maybe going out and trade-marking "19-0" wasn't such a good idea afterall

- Hmm. Brady hasn't won a championship in a couple of years. Does that make him a "choker" like Peyton?

Okay...I am done.
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Ok, and i'll even ignore your final point in the post just above this one.

Especially because i essentially agree.
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Hey, that's 5 long years.
Typical NY fan. Short memory of convenience.
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The only tiny positive out of this disaster was this guy getting to go out a winner after 60 years.

I wanted this guy to win more then anything, ever.
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:50 PM   #354
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Typical NY fan. Short memory of convenience.

Unclench.
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Eli winning MVP = result of zero football knowledge

The real MVP for the Gmen was Justin Tuck. Two sacks and a forced fumble > 19/34, 2 TDs, 1 INT
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I actually know Jay Alford, No. 93 on the Giants. I plan on calling Jay Alford tomorrow. I am the sports editor of his hometown newspaper in Orange, N.J.

Alford had the sack with 19 seconds left in the game.

This is one of the greatest upsets in sports history. The Patriots, with their record-setting offense, were shut down completely. They needed just one win to complete a perfect season, something that has been done only one time, in 1972, a few months before I was even born.

How fitting that Burress, who predicted the Giants would win 23-17, caught the game-winning touchdown. Burress surprised Brady with his prediction. Remember, Brady was perplexed that the Pats would score just 17 points.

No, the Pats scored just 14 points.

I have to admit. I am not a Giants fan. I actually felt like crying when the game was over. I mean, the Pats were just one win from being undefeated. That is the ultimate dream for an NFL team.
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Eli winning MVP = result of zero football knowledge

The real MVP for the Gmen was Justin Tuck. Two sacks and a forced fumble > 19/34, 2 TDs, 1 INT
I thought Osi was better, especially considering he was gong up against a Pro Bowl tackle. No sacks, but plenty of pressure and a couple false start penalties.

But yeah, the Giants D-Line pretty much pwnz0r3d the Patriots today.
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- Giving Eli Manning the MVP award is fine, but I thought that the player who had the biggest impact on the game was clearly Giants DE Osi Umenyiora. I hope Bill Belichick makes Matt Light wear a t-shirt that says "Property of Osi Umenyiora" all throughout training camp next year.



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- I don't think anything needs to be made of Belichick congratulating Tom Coughlin and walking off the field with :02 left. The result of the game was clear at that point, and I assume he thought that either the game was over or that the referees had the power to end it if he conceded. I'd be shocked if any of the Giants were offended by it.


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- I don't think too much really should be made of the Patriots' 18-1 record either. 18-game win streaks aren't that uncommon in baseball or basketball; it just seems a lot more impressive in football because it takes up the entire season. This season was by no means a failure, just not as good as it could have been.

18-1 is pretty impressive. Only three teams in the last 35 years have been able to match a 18-1 record. It is not easy. But, you are sounding like a Colts fan now...justifying 18-1 without winning the big game.

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- The Patriots really have to wonder if signing Randy Moss to a contract worth $7-10 MM per year is worth it when he's probably on the downside (perhaps gradual, but a downside nonetheless) of his career and the Patriots need to plug holes at linebacker and in the secondary and eventually need to start replenishing their offensive line.


- New England fans everywhere should hearken to the wisdom of the philosopher Manuel Aristides Ramirez: "Why should we panic? We've got a great team. If it doesn't happen, who cares? There's always next year. It's not like it's the end of the world."
These two belong together. I could agree more about the LBs and OL. They could pick up a few WRs later in the draft that could perform well in the Patriots system. They need to focus on protecting Brady and adding some youth (or replacing) the LBs.

No matter what happens, the Patriots will be at or near the top of the AFC again next year.
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