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Old 11-11-2005, 02:27 PM   #166
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I'm saying you're really looking deep for anything to support your boy, when the writers are gonna take a much simpler approach and vote for the worthy candidate who can't spell his first name properly.
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I'm saying you're really looking deep for anything to support your boy, when the writers are gonna take a much simpler approach and vote for the worthy candidate who can't spell his first name properly.
im not really looking that deep. Win Shares is THE stat anybody should use to measure the value of a baseball player to his team. quoted directly from Bill James

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Add these up, and you can see that Win Shares are a great player comparison tool. I like using them for Hall of Fame discussions, or MVP arguments.
Pujols was 1st in the league with a win share of 35
Jones was tied for 21st in the league with a win share of 22

The people at baseball prospectus say because of this Jones shouldn't even be an after thought for MVP.

But you're right, most writers will just look at home runs and give it to Jones, making it one of the most absurd MVP's of all time.
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How many MVP votes does Bill James get?
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a big fat honkin zero
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What does Bill James think of Arod and his 6 win share beating out Big Papi and his 77 win share for AL MVP?
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bill james thinks it's outrageous.

headache thinks it's the right call.

i think we can all agree, by the closeness of the vote, that Ortiz being a DH probably cost him the MVP.

i personaly would have placed travis hafner third in the voting, but eh... what do i know.
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Obviously the gold glove was the difference.
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in a side note, and in a stroke of genius, steve phillips has declared that konerko and damon are the best available free agents.

and people wonder why he's called an expert... i certainly couldn't have figured that one out on my own. good thing we've got steve around to help us out.
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What Kevin Millar isn't at the top of the list?
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Obvioiusly pubcrawler gets a vote, that would explain Vlad getting 1 first place vote.
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3 words for "Red Sox Nation" (I think it's fun to use that lame term ): Your boy loses.
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(I think it's fun to use that lame term ):
You want lame, 2 more words: "Rally Monkey"
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Obvioiusly pubcrawler gets a vote, that would explain Vlad getting 1 first place vote.
No, I'm actually realistic and, add to that, there is no West Coast Sports Network to influence my thinking.
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