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Old 03-01-2006, 11:40 AM   #346
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14 teams... 44% of the entire NFL... had 10 or more loses last season.

oh yea... the play is spectacular.
Yeah and if you take the total wins and losses of every team and add them up, its .500. Who wants to watch a league that plays .500 football.
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and a lot of the teams that had 10 or more losses last year have a shot at making the playoffs this year. their fans can be excited for the upcoming season, while royals fans really have nothing to look forward to

the cap is a big reason the NFL has become the most successful league in sports, getting rid of it just doesnt make sense
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Yeah and if you take the total wins and losses of every team and add them up, its .500. Who wants to watch a league that plays .500 football.
the total wins and losses of every team in every league adds up to .500

i'm not saying i want a change. the cap has been good for the NFL in many ways... but the majority of the league is mediocre at best because of the cap.

and the NFL isn't successful because of the Cap alone... the only reason the cap works is because of the Revenue Sharing, a mandatory minnimum salary, and a huge TV contract... the same sort of deal would not work in baseball because htey play too many games.

revenue sharing does not work without a minimum salary... no matter what the cap is. forcing the yankees, mets & red sox to spend less in no way forces the royals, marlins and diamondbacks to spend more.
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the total wins and losses of every team in every league adds up to .500

I think you should check the batteries in your sarcasm detector.
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Old 03-01-2006, 12:48 PM   #351
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i'm not saying i want a change. the cap has been good for the NFL in many ways... but the majority of the league is mediocre at best because of the cap.

the majority of the league would be mediocre at best without a cap too

a cap doesnt take talent away from the NFL, it just spreads it out

i dont see anything wrong with that

i can see why someone rooting for a NY team wouldn't want a cap though
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the majority of the league would be mediocre at best without a cap too

a cap doesnt take talent away from the NFL, it just spreads it out

i dont see anything wrong with that

i can see why someone rooting for a NY team wouldn't want a cap though
oh please give me a break with the new york bullshit.

not having a hard cap has really helped the knicks, hasn't it?

you want a salary cap in every sport? fine. no problem. i'm all for it, as long as there is also a minumum salary put into effect as well. major league baseball has revenue sharing and a luxary tax in place. but it doesn't work for two reasons... 1, baseball doesn't have the TV deal that the NFL has and never will, and 2, the owners of the small market teams who are getting the revenue sharing moneys... like say the owner of the minnesota twins... who has more money than the combined worth of george steinbrenner and fred wilpon... takes the revenue sharing money and sticks it in his pocket rather than spending it on his team.

in the entire history of the non-capped NFL, two New York teams had a combined three super bowl victories... fewer than pittsburgh, dallas, san francisco, and just as many as oakland, washington and that huge metropolis of green bay.

of the teams that sucked before the cap, many of them still suck... i.e. your former st. louis cardinals. up until the past few seasons, when new management was put into place, the bengals were actually worse in cap as opposed to out of cap.


do not compare the NFL's financial ability to any other sport... the NFL plays once a week. each game is an event. the only other "sport" that compares, as far as TV revenue goes, is NASCAR. you simply cannot get the same sort of TV deal for baseball, basketball or hockey. doesn't work.
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Headache, are you arguing with yourself again?

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i tend to do that alot, don't i
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it's good in that your team always has a chance, but those years that your team isn't in it, it would be nice to actually see good teams play.
But wouldn't you get tired of seeing the same good teams play every year since your team never has a shot in an un-capped system?

Seeing the same teams battle it out year after year would be just as boring as seeing middle of the road teams.
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and you cant tell me that in an uncapped system a team playing in new york doesnt have a built in advantage over a team playing in jacksonville
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and you cant tell me that in an uncapped system a team playing in new york doesnt have a built in advantage over a team playing in jacksonville
if run correctly, yes... they do. they still do. free agents are still more likely to consider a major city like new york or chicago, or a proven winner like green bay or new england, than a little dump shit hole like jacksonville.
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if run correctly, yes... they do. they still do. free agents are still more likely to consider a major city like new york or chicago, or a proven winner like green bay or new england, than a little dump shit hole like jacksonville.
not only will free agents want to play in those cities more, but the revenue that those cities generate just because of the sheer size of the market allows for a greater payroll

and yes i know, a high payroll doesn't automatically mean success, but it sure helps.

unless your gm is isiah thomas.
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owners have decided to break off all talks...looks like no deal is going to get done today.
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