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Old 05-31-2008, 06:49 PM   #541
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Is that middle one Michael Keaton's pudge face?

Cuz that NEVER looked good.
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Is that middle one Michael Keaton's pudge face?

mmm... how can I scrach myself?... it itches...
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Cuz that NEVER looked good.
Aw, hell naw!

I like him better in the first one, but Keaton was terrific in both Batman movies.
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Sorry, that's NOT Bruce Wayne.

He's supposed to keep a respectable cover, not act like a wild-eyed freak.
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And Alfred's not supposed to let girls into the Batcave, nothing's perfect.
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I still don't know which Batman I prefer though.
there's something about christian bale's batman...i think he does a great job of bringing about the dark side of bruce wayne/batman
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Holy crap, you said something that makes sense/that I agree with.
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there's something about christian bale's batman...i think he does a great job of bringing about the dark side of bruce wayne/batman

And the key is his subtlety. There's NOTHING normal about Michael Keaton. He looks like a whack job to begin with. He doesn't look like an old money billionaire, and is SO out of place in formal wear.

Val Kilmer didn't look right either, for that matter. And Clooney...didn't do the "dark" very well.

If I had been casting for Burton's film, I probably would have gone with Alec Baldwin, who was pretty lean and dashing back in '89. He played a convincing psychopath the next year in Miami Blues, and you can get a partial idea of how he would have handled the Bruce Wayne thing by watching 1994's adaptation of The Shadow, which has a similar title character.
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Plus Baldwin had worked with Burton already; he'd have been a good choice.
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If Burton was going to use Keaton for anything after working with him on Beetlejuice, it should have been for The Joker. I think he would have done a great job with that, actually.
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If Burton was going to use Keaton for anything after working with him on Beetlejuice, it should have been for The Joker. I think he would have done a great job with that, actually.
And then we could have avoided Jack Nicholson AS Jack-Nicholson-in-paint-and-a-purple-suit.
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Never rub another man's rhubarb!!!

By the way, I love both Nicholson and Keaton in Burton's first Batman. I think Burton nailed it.

And Danny Elfman's work on the movie is some of the coolest shit I've ever heard in a movie.
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And the key is his subtlety. There's NOTHING normal about Michael Keaton. He looks like a whack job to begin with. He doesn't look like an old money billionaire, and is SO out of place in formal wear.

Val Kilmer didn't look right either, for that matter. And Clooney...didn't do the "dark" very well.

If I had been casting for Burton's film, I probably would have gone with Alec Baldwin, who was pretty lean and dashing back in '89. He played a convincing psychopath the next year in Miami Blues, and you can get a partial idea of how he would have handled the Bruce Wayne thing by watching 1994's adaptation of The Shadow, which has a similar title character.
Like I said, I'm a Keaton fan, but he also looks a lot better compared to Kilmer and Clooney's versions of Batman. Although I think Clooney now could really pull it off, he just ended up being in one of the worst movies ever made.

I like the Alec Baldwin suggestion. How about Kurt Russell as Batman?

I've always felt that Batman and The Joker are two sides of the same coin. Both are insane to be dressing up and, in one case, causing, or in the other, preventing crime across the city. That's what makes them the most compelling hero/supervillain combo in comics, in my opinion. With Burton's vision of Batman, Keaton and Nicholson both fit completely - it ain't a true comic representation, but it's damn entertaining and worth every minute of it.
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