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Old 06-21-2007, 12:14 AM   #1
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The Fall of Troy

Anyone listen to them? They're pretty amazing for a trio of kids barely old enough to drink. Wikipedia describes them as "an experimental rock/prog-rock band with mathcore tendencies," which I think is code for "fucking awesome." When my friend first introduced them to me I thought it was some screamo bullshit like Taking Back Sunday or whatever, but these guys can really play. Guitarist Thomas Erak is simply a virtuoso.

I think their best album is Doppelgänger (2005), although Manipulator (2007) is more refined and definitely shows growth.

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Very interesting band. They've got potential, and SO much talent in that guitarist. For such young guys, it'll be interesting to see where they take their music in the future. It's interesting now, but I think it could be really great at some point.
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what grecian urns must we raize to become knowledge
to become truth
what must we know
what must we drink
in what scone do you live your thoughtdremes?

where is your me?¿come truth
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Very interesting band. They've got potential, and SO much talent in that guitarist. For such young guys, it'll be interesting to see where they take their music in the future. It's interesting now, but I think it could be really great at some point.
word, like I said doppelganger is pretty amazing but I think they can do something even better. I hope they stick with it.

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what grecian urns must we raize to become knowledge
to become truth
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in what scone do you live your thoughtdremes?

where is your me?¿come truth
thom yorke, how'd you get in here?
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thom yorke, how'd you get in here?
i am but a dreme//./vision?>>>///what must i be, of essence of not myself, to know no one unknow that is to be known?

¿¿//¿///¿/~/?
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thats cool i guess, but...do you like fall of troy?

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great, great band, "Manipulator" is an awesome record, the voice is a little emo-ish, still good, if you like them, listen to The Dear Hunter
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I personally find this band common in approach and trite in execution. There is a nominal amount of evident talent, but I feel that this band is limited by its own perception of the definition of music/art.
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great, great band, "Manipulator" is an awesome record, the voice is a little emo-ish, still good, if you like them, listen to The Dear Hunter
thanks for the rec, I shall check them out... nice location btw...sonic youth fan?

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I feel that this band is limited by its own perception of the definition of music/art.
yeah uh...how exactly do they define music/art, and how does this differ from your definition?
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Art and music is reaching for the stars, and then moving them out of the way to see what is beyond. It is diving so far into yourself that you forget who you are. They seem to think that "shredding" and "screaming" is art, which is totally ridiculous. They are tripe for the plebian masses.
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I am going to form a band and call it:

"Tripe for the Plebian Masses"

"Are you Plebians ready to rock??? I can't hear you!?!? Good, now get ready for a rock n' roll kick to the spine, with a side order of tripe! A 1 and a 2 and a....."
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I am going to form a band and call it:

"Tripe for the Plebian Masses"

"Are you Plebians ready to rock??? I can't hear you!?!? Good, now get ready for a rock n' roll kick to the spine, with a side order of tripe! A 1 and a 2 and a....."
I would appreciate the irony of such an exploration.
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I am going to form a band and call it:

"Tripe for the Plebian Masses"

can i be in it (I'm thinking it's more of an album title though. For a band it's too...meh)

VCJerk, I can understand you thinking that of Fall of Troy at first listen, but they're a lot more than just "screaming and shredding." Erak uses his voice as an instrument, going from one xtreme to the other. also not only is his guitar playing fucking awesome, but he utilizes effects at all the right moments and there are tempo changes and little atmospheric breaks in songs...check out that clip I posted. their music comes across as legitimite to me and for the most part not just guitar wanking, though there is a bit of that going on, i believe they are starting to refine themselves.

anyway, just learn to fucking appreciate awesome rock, what are you some kind of radiohead fan?
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can i be in it (I'm thinking it's more of an album title though. For a band it's too...meh)

VCJerk, I can understand you thinking that of Fall of Troy at first listen, but they're a lot more than just "screaming and shredding." Erak uses his voice as an instrument, going from one xtreme to the other. also not only is his guitar playing fucking awesome, but he utilizes effects at all the right moments and there are tempo changes and little atmospheric breaks in songs...check out that clip I posted. their music comes across as legitimite to me and for the most part not just guitar wanking, though there is a bit of that going on, i believe they are starting to refine themselves.

anyway, just learn to fucking appreciate awesome rock, what are you some kind of radiohead fan?
Where is the truth? Where are the questions that shake the foundations of our existence? Where is the drop of mercury in a pond of forgotten kingdoms? All I see is masturbatory guitar and cliche lyrics, garnering only the adolation of the unrefined.

I respect your perspective however, as this is the cosmic rule.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:28 AM   #15
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what does truth have to do with it? this is a band, not a philosophical discussion... go listen to radiohead like i said

yeah their lyrics are cliche, theyre kind of emo, but does every band need to have earth-shattering lyrics? I don't think so. I don't listen to The Fall of Troy for their lyrics; I listen to them for their stunning musical compositions. And who knows, maybe they will get better thematically as they go along. they're still very young.
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