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Old 08-29-2005, 08:26 PM   #211
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Re: Crosby. By the end of the night, I was tired, hostile, cramped in, too drunk. The ticket prices weren't too bad, so I did feel like a part of a spectacle. Kind of like audience participation performance art and it was a show for the annals of freebasing history.

I felt really sorry for the opening act, who had to play off and on for a couple of hours when he had about half an hour of material. PS, Did not buy opening act's CD. Never wanted to hear him again! Ever.

My friend and I have pretty good senses of humor which remained intact throughout, so I'm sure that helped. It helped that the show was only fifteen minutes from my house.

That's not the first time he's berated an audience . Sometimes I've felt like a misbehaving child even when I was just standing there. Luckily, the shows would end with a great deal of energy that would make me forget that I was part of a "bad" collective audience. I so love being scolded.

I do like a lot of his music, but I don't own much of his solo stuff or his Crosby-Nash stuff. And none of his CPR stuff.

I've seen him play since then, both with CSN and his other band (which I don't really like) He is better behaved off drugs, somewhat Buddha serene and playful, but I don't know how much of that is choreographed.

From what I understand, CSN once said they would never play on the same stage again since they don't always get along so well. So to get around that little lapse, since touring is a pretty good source of their revenue, they each stand on a different type of flooring when they perform. Sure enough, when I went to see them a couple of weeks ago, each of them had their own separate squares of flooring.

A couple of years ago, I intereracted with Crosby on the internet. because he used to participate on a forum. Hard to gauge him because almost everybody on the board was such a freaking synchopant. Oh, isn't David wonderful, this. Oh, isn't David wonderful that. I can't stand that for anybody. So I got into a theoretical discussion with him about Menage a Trois's (because of his song Triad) and argued on a few other issues. But my computer crashed a short while later and it took me years to get another one. By the time I got a new one, he was no longer on board.

I still go to see CSN often enough, but mostly for S. I've met Stephen Stills a few times and he's never been nasty, and oftentimes really nice. Bright man. (not that he hasn't had his drug moments.) And to give Nash credit, he has always been friendly.
OMG! That sounds wonderfully like the concert from Hell! Good shows are a dime a dozen, but the truly wretched ones are the ones that etch themselves into your brain.

About Crosby on the forum... several years ago SK posted on the Church forum and he still sometimes comes into the Church chatroom. It is truly amazing how goofy people can get tripping all over themselves trying to get his attention. I'm kind of embarrassed for them. What I noticed is that although he certainly enjoyed the ego stroking to a certain extent, there were times he just seemed bored and lonely and wanted to talk to someone.

Talking to SK in the chatroom (and now through email, etc.) I got a much clearer impression of him as a person, not just as a musician. Kind of nice listening to the music of someone I genuinely like.

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Always said I wanted to fuck Stephen Stills and be Neil Young.
Haven't done either.
Well...a girl needs goals in life....

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RE: Box of Birds interview. Pretty funny stuff. They sound a little surreal. You got to love self deprecating humor. Laughed out loud when I got to the part about only one chord. "Why bother to learn one with lots of chords?"



Almost spit out my coffee. OK, it's a given. I'll like their music.
They captured my imagination.
Surreal is the perfect word -- SK and PK (at least) are both quite enamoured with the surrealist movement.

I did love that bit about doing the song because they only had to learn one chord. Reminds me of when SK was asked why he decided to play the bass and he said he figured it would be the easiest instrument to learn to be able to get into a band.

In their earlier interviews they showed that humour sometimes, but mostly came across as fairly serious and sometimes quite arrogant. Now...well they've pretty much been there, done that and seem to see the absurdity in it all. They know they are never going to be big stars and it doesn't really faze them. I've heard some pretty wild interviews with them where the poor interviewer was totally lost and they were just talking about whatever they wanted to.
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:25 AM   #212
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This is true. They want these people to lighten up and have a sense of humor, and when they do, people will whine that they should go back to moping, as they do that best. Go figure the public sometimes-musicians can't please everyone, I guess. We're just too damn fickle .

I'd personally like to hear that interlude with that song.
I've actually heard fans comment that they would rather Steve be miserable because they like his lyrics better when he's miserable. Aaarrrggghh! What kind of person would think that way? I'm delighted that he's happy -- I figure if SK can be happy there's hope for anyone.

I'll include that song with the live "Cantilever."

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Also, uh...I don't mind the Barenaked Ladies, personally . I'm not a big fan or anything, but I can hear a song of theirs on the radio every so often without harboring some of the feelings Steve does, LOL .
I think his shorts might have been in a twist that day. Besides, he's a cranky old guy, and they are apt to say anything.

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Interesting story about Steve being arrested and not being able to be with the other band members at that show. Has anything else like that happened since then? Or has he been a good boy ?
He's actually cleaned up a lot since then and is living a much healthier, less-substanced life now. It's a good change...he's less apt to die soon and has a much better personality.

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By the way, I was listening to "After Everything" again yesterday...that really is a pretty song. Doesn't hurt that musically it kinda sounds like something I could've heard another artist I like doing around the time of some of his work he'd done in the late 90s . And while listening to some of the songs from the non-Church related CD you sent me, I noticed that when you mentioned Steve worked with one of the artists on there, it definitely showed (that CD had some good stuff on it, too ).

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It is a beautiful song -- one of my favourites. Who's the other artist you mention?
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Moonlit_Angel, I'm sending some stuff to you tomorrow. Some live stuff (including Cantilever), some covers, some more of their songs, and even the tale of the girl with the glass eye. It's a pretty random grouping. Hope you enjoy.
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Moonlit_Angel, I'm sending some stuff to you tomorrow. Some live stuff (including Cantilever), some covers, some more of their songs, and even the tale of the girl with the glass eye. It's a pretty random grouping. Hope you enjoy.
Cool . I look forward to hearing the stuff.

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I've actually heard fans comment that they would rather Steve be miserable because they like his lyrics better when he's miserable. Aaarrrggghh! What kind of person would think that way?
LOL, I don't know. People are funny, I guess .

Besides that, an artist I like has stated that he tends to write sad songs when he's happy, and vice versa. Maybe there's times that's the same for Steve (that's the thing about writers, people always assume their stuff is totally autobiographical-not always the case). And even if it isn't, if he's feeling happy, let him feel happy. Don't like the happy stuff, then don't listen.

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I'm delighted that he's happy -- I figure if SK can be happy there's hope for anyone.
Hehe, exactly.

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I'll include that song with the live "Cantilever."
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I think his shorts might have been in a twist that day. Besides, he's a cranky old guy, and they are apt to say anything.
Haha, good point. Very true.

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He's actually cleaned up a lot since then and is living a much healthier, less-substanced life now. It's a good change...he's less apt to die soon and has a much better personality.
That's good . It's funny the things that'll wake you up to your behavior, huh?

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It is a beautiful song -- one of my favourites.
Well, I can see why .

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Who's the other artist you mention?
Stephen Cummings. Liked the song "September 13" in particular. And like I said, Steve's influence definitely showed .

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Stephen Cummings. Liked the song "September 13" in particular. And like I said, Steve's influence definitely showed .

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Yep. SK wrote the song for him (and does a version of it himself too) and I think plays most of the instruments (well except the horns) on it too. It's title is bit of a joke because both Steven's and Stephen's birthdays are September 13th (don't know if they are the same year though ).

I need to get some more of Cummings' albums. He just did an acoustic best of album last year (for the same series as The Church's EMD cd) that I think might be very nice.
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Yep. SK wrote the song for him (and does a version of it himself too) and I think plays most of the instruments (well except the horns) on it too.
Ah, okay .

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It's title is bit of a joke because both Steven's and Stephen's birthdays are September 13th (don't know if they are the same year though ).
LOL. Was wondering about the title...

Hey, that day's coming up in the near future...

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I need to get some more of Cummings' albums. He just did an acoustic best of album last year (for the same series as The Church's EMD cd) that I think might be very nice.
I might want to hear more from the guy, too. I liked the couple of songs I heard, so.... And acoustic stuff is always nice .

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LOL. Was wondering about the title...

Hey, that day's coming up in the near future...

Yeah, it's an odd one as it has nothing at all to do with the actual song. I just recently found what the real title was supposed to be, but can't remember it for the life of me.

Yep, it is. Last year for his 50th Bday we set up an electronic card (just a guestbook really) that people could write messages to him. Some of the messages were really sweet...and a few were really hilarious too. He sent this back:

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my dear friends
although ones fiftieth birthday is not really cause for great celebration
you, all of you
have made me one happy centagenarian...
i became so misty at the controls of my computer as i read my birthday greetings
i became so goddamn misty that i was asked to leave
because i was weeping copiously
great tears of happiness and joy, my people
and sighs of contentment too, my glorious ones
as i perused the sincere, the witty, the heartfelt, the personal
the magnaminous, the sympathetic
the empathetic
my darling ones
my beautiful friends
my sweet hearted and generous well wishers
even tho i am humbly dwarfed by your felicitations
i now honestly extend my heartfelt thanks towards ye
and declare that every sept 13 should be a public holy day
and you should all reward yourselves
by dressing in paisley, tight black pants, suede boots
and proudly let my music be blasted from the highest hilltops
and let it murmur in the valleys
ripple thru the swaying fields
and ululate amongst the glowing steppes
people, my dear people
i thank you all
steven (steve) kilbey
So I guess paisley, tight black pants, suede boot, and annoying the neighbors with loud Church music are on the agenda for next tuesday.


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I might want to hear more from the guy, too. I liked the couple of songs I heard, so.... And acoustic stuff is always nice .

Angela
I'll let you know what I think of it when I get some more. I'm planning to pick some up in the next month or so.
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Yeah, it's an odd one as it has nothing at all to do with the actual song. I just recently found what the real title was supposed to be, but can't remember it for the life of me.
Hehe. Well, maybe the original title'll come back to you eventually .

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Yep, it is. Last year for his 50th Bday we set up an electronic card (just a guestbook really) that people could write messages to him. Some of the messages were really sweet...and a few were really hilarious too.
Aw, that's awesome . Liked reading his response, too...again, I'm really liking this appreciation these guys have for their fans. Very cool.

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So I guess paisley, tight black pants, suede boot, and annoying the neighbors with loud Church music are on the agenda for next tuesday.
LOL, yeah, seems so.

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I'll let you know what I think of it when I get some more. I'm planning to pick some up in the next month or so.
Great . Look forward to hearing your thoughts on it.

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Not sure how rare it might be ( maybe you could ask Steve!?) I have a Picture sleeve copy of 7inch vinyl of Steven Kilbey "This asphalt eden' with 'Never come Back' and 'Shell' on the B-side. ( actually dont like the A-side at all, B-sides are great though!)
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Not sure how rare it might be ( maybe you could ask Steve!?) I have a Picture sleeve copy of 7inch vinyl of Steven Kilbey "This asphalt eden' with 'Never come Back' and 'Shell' on the B-side. ( actually dont like the A-side at all, B-sides are great though!)
Do you have the red tinted picture sleeve or the black and white one? I think there were something like three different versions (of the sleeve anyway), which is amazing as I don't think all the versions put together sold all that many. Does your copy have "A Kill A Bee Production" etched into the inner groove?

And I agree about the B-sides being far better than the A-side. With a few notable exceptions, the guys in The Church can't pick a single to save their lives....


And on a most important note...make sure to blast Church music today (Sept. 13) as it is SK's birthday! (and if you look good in paisley shirts, tight black pants, and suede boots, by all means wear them as well.... )
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Heh, it's appropriate you suggest that, indra, 'cause I got the stuff you sent me recently. I haven't gotten a chance to listen to it yet, but considering the date today, well, here's an opportunity .

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Happy Birthday, SK.

Oh, I listened to Under the Milky Way. I liked a lot of the stuff. Was at work though, have to listen to it under headphones to hear it better.
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Yes, a happy birthday to Steve . Hope he had a good one.

Wound up being rather busy today...but I still have some time before I head off to bed here. I'll start on those CDs shortly. I'm really curious to hear how they did that Monkees song.

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Do you have the red tinted picture sleeve or the black and white one? I think there were something like three different versions (of the sleeve anyway), which is amazing as I don't think all the versions put together sold all that many. Does your copy have "A Kill A Bee Production" etched into the inner groove?

And I agree about the B-sides being far better than the A-side. With a few notable exceptions, the guys in The Church can't pick a single to save their lives....


And on a most important note...make sure to blast Church music today (Sept. 13) as it is SK's birthday! (and if you look good in paisley shirts, tight black pants, and suede boots, by all means wear them as well.... )
Black and white picture sleeve and yes 'a killabee production' is etched into inner groove.
All the best bands have great B-sides! A really great band would bring out Double A sides (remember them?) a couple that come to mind (that i own anyway) being The Beatles and The Buzzcocks.

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Just got this from the Church website:

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Nominees in the 28 categories of the prestigious 2005 ARIA Awards were announced earlier today at Sydney's Art Gallery of NSW. We were named in the TOP 5 nominations for BEST CONTEMPORARY ADULT ALBUM 2005 for our acoustic album EL MOMENTO DESCUIDADO on Liberation Records. This is reason to celebrate in itself!

Exciting that this is the album that has Steve Kilbey's artwork on the cover!

The ARIA awards at the Sydney Superdrome will be presented and simulcast all over Australia on Channel 10 Sunday, October 23rd. This may be the only time we ask you to stay home and TURN ON the telly!
http://www.ariaawards.com.au

Architecture In Helsinki - In Case We Die (Tailem Bend/Remote Control/Inertia)

John Farnham and Tom Jones - Together In Concert (Sony BMG)

Renee Geyer - Tonight (First Edition/ABC)

THE CHURCH - El Momento Descuidado (Liberation)

Go-Betweens - Oceans Apart (Capitol/EMI)
Selling out in their old age.




Seriously, it's nice to see them get recognised. It is a really wonderful album. And lovely to see the Go-Betweens up there too.
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