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Old 10-07-2006, 10:35 PM   #16
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I'm interested in this because it's a loose remake of this Hong Kong movie that was really popular here but I never got the chance to see.

So this might be my excuse to go and rent that movie and then watch this one.

Edit: Actually I realise why I never bothered to see it, it's because they dub every single Hong Kong movie that comes in from Cantonese to Mandarin, and I really hate that. I'll have to find a version that retains the original dialect.

Andy Lau rates 'The Departed'

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October 7, 2006

On a scale of 1 to 10, Andy Lau gives "The Departed" — an Americanized version of one of his movies — an 8.

The new Martin Scorsese film starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Matt Damon and Jack Nicholson was inspired by the 2002 Hong Kong crime thriller "Infernal Affairs," which features Lau and Tony Leung.

Lau spokeswoman Alice Tam said he didn't give the new film higher marks because he disliked the amount of foul language and the fact that it has only one main female character.
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i thought it was very good!

my only problems were that we got there late and had to sit in the very front row, so i think i might actually see it again.

great acting, tremendously exciting at points, and while i think the movie fell apart in the final 20 minutes, i think that was also the point the movie was trying to make -- you cannot trust anybody, anywhere, and everyone is ultimately looking out for themselves first and foremost.

i'd give it an 8 out of 10 as well.
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great acting, tremendously exciting at points, and while i think the movie fell apart in the final 20 minutes,
I agree, I think it was brilliant (even with Ray Winstone's accent!) till the last 20 minutes. The ending really bugs me. How would the other guy know where Sullivan was and why should he care if Sullivan was about to get arrested? It makes no sense to me.
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How would the other guy know where Sullivan was and why should he care if Sullivan was about to get arrested?
I guess you mean the dark haired cop ?

he also was an inside guy for JN


he would care because
he would not want him to flip or do a plea bargain


he (or they) could have been tailing him
weren't there 2 cops there? no big leap
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I guess you mean the dark haired cop ?

he also was an inside guy for JN


he would care because
he would not want him to flip or do a plea bargain


he (or they) could have been tailing him
weren't there 2 cops there? no big leap
But Matt Damon didn't know about any other cops working for JN so its not like the dark-haired cop had to worry about being revealed and I don't believe that JN would be stupid enough to tell Matt Damon more than he needed to know so I doubt he'd have any insider info that'd be of much use to the police...

Though I guess the dark-haired cop wouldn't know that Matt Damon didn't know about him

Yeah, I guess Dark Haired Cop could've tailed Matt Damon (but why would he do that? Though Leo did say that JN didn't trust Matt Damon so I suppose that might explain it). Of-course none of this would matter if Leo had just marched into the police station and produced the CD to that guy he was at the academy with instead of luring him to a rooftop like that.

See this is why I'm not a big lover of films- I think about them too much! If I just accepted at face value what I saw I think I'd enjoy them much more!

And I have another question. You know that whole opera sequence where JN says "Do you want some more Coke?" who was he actually talking to at that point?

Also I never noticed how alike Leonardo Dicaprio and Matt Damon looked till I saw this film.
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LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Martin Scorsese's mob saga "The Departed" debuted as the weekend's top movie with $27 million, muscling out the horror prequel "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning."

It was a record opening for Scorsese, whose previous best was $10.3 million with 1991's "Cape Fear." Scorsese's films usually debut in narrower release and gradually roll out to more theaters, but Warner Bros. decided to launch "The Departed" in wide release of 3,017 cinemas.

"I think the cast was the deciding factor and the playability of the movie," Warner distribution chief Dan Fellman said of the film, which stars Leonardo DiCaprio, Matt Damon and Jack Nicholson in a blood-soaked epic about moles infiltrating the Boston police and a crime gang.

"We had a special film here. We had the cast to drive it that way, and it worked out well," Fellman said.
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another question: the member of Jack's gang who died after the shootout that followed the body being tossed out the window -- the one who was dumped in the Fenway marshes. why did he give Leo the wrong address? was he really undercover and was trying to prevent Leo from being killed? was he trying to set him up because he knew Leo was the rat? was Jack right when he said that the police were only saying that he was a policeman so that he would think that he had gotten rid of the rat to keep his own men on their toes?

this is where i thought the movie was so brilliant -- aside from the acting, the double-crossings were all very plausible and kept the audience on their toes as much as any of the characters in the movie.

i'm predicting a nomination for Leonardo, possibly for Nicholson as well. and unless a major movie comes out, i can see this being a year where they give Scorcese the Best Director Oscar, and he'd be pretty deserving even though "Goodfellas" is his best movie (IMHO), and Best Picture goes somewhere else (like last year). no WAY is this a Best Picture movie -- way too gross and unsettling with filthy, filthy characters.
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another question: the member of Jack's gang who died after the shootout that followed the body being tossed out the window -- the one who was dumped in the Fenway marshes. why did he give Leo the wrong address? was he really undercover and was trying to prevent Leo from being killed? was he trying to set him up because he knew Leo was the rat? was Jack right when he said that the police were only saying that he was a policeman so that he would think that he had gotten rid of the rat to keep his own men on their toes?
Hmmm, but if he wasn't an undercover cop why wouldn't he have told the others he knew Leo was the rat? I also think he was a cop because of his dying words about "why do you think I didn't tell the others" (or whatever his words were)...
Not sure what you mean about him being set up though...
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FUCKING AMAZING MOVIE! BRILLIANT! HOLY SHIT I JUST SAW THIS AND WOW!
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i saw this last night and thought it was was a very good movie.

alec baldwin and mark wahlberg were hilarious, but the actress who played the psychiatrist was horrible.

really well done on the whole, but yes, it kinda fell apart and got confusing near the end.
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Hmmm, but if he wasn't an undercover cop why wouldn't he have told the others he knew Leo was the rat? I also think he was a cop because of his dying words about "why do you think I didn't tell the others" (or whatever his words were)...
Not sure what you mean about him being set up though...
I'd just accepted that he was a legitimate member of JN's gang and had never even considered any other option till my friend mentioned it on the way home.

I just don't see why an undercover cop would want to catch Leo out like that. Personally I think he wasn't an undercover cop and didn't tell anyone because he got shot before he had a chance! I just took his dying words of "I wonder why I didn't tell anyone" to be a genuine question rather than a hint to Leo.

But my friend insists that he was an undercover cop-working for the FBI to cover JN's role as an informer...which might explain why he wanted to catch Leo out (so the FBI didn't lose a valuable informer) and why JN denied he was an undercover cop (to cover his tracks as a FBI informer).
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But my friend insists that he was an undercover cop-working for the FBI to cover JN's role as an informer...which might explain why he wanted to catch Leo out (so the FBI didn't lose a valuable informer) and why JN denied he was an undercover cop (to cover his tracks as a FBI informer).


i think this makes the most sense.

he was FBI, but they said he was State Police to throw lots of people off.

i think i do want to see it again.

though i can live without some of that blood splattering all over the place. i wonder, though, if that wasn't some sort of tip of the hat to Tarantino -- Tarantino is accused of ripping of Scorcese so much (but then, who doesn't?) that i wonder if Scorcese was consciously "borrowing" from Tarantino, because what else was the end of that movie other than a tribute to "Resevoir Dogs"?
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But my friend insists that he was an undercover cop-working for the FBI to cover JN's role as an informer...which might explain why he wanted to catch Leo out (so the FBI didn't lose a valuable informer) and why JN denied he was an undercover cop (to cover his tracks as a FBI informer).
That's an interesting spin - I hadn't even considered that

I just opted for the obvious explanation
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though i can live without some of that blood splattering all over the place. i wonder, though, if that wasn't some sort of tip of the hat to Tarantino -- Tarantino is accused of ripping of Scorcese so much (but then, who doesn't?) that i wonder if Scorcese was consciously "borrowing" from Tarantino, because what else was the end of that movie other than a tribute to "Resevoir Dogs"?
this is not even in my top 3 violent films from Scorcese

I think

Goodfellows

Gangs

and Casino

were all a lot more bloody and violent

this is much tamer by comparison

and I don't think Marty is thinking much about Tarantino

I know I wasn't when I was watching the movie

but that might just be an age thing

we all have our points of reference

at certain points in our lives
some films and directors have made lasting impressions
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