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Old 08-11-2004, 11:49 AM   #16
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I don't know anyone who seriously hates the Beatles. What's there to hate besides the four men's hippie attitude?
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Re: The Beatles

Agreed, U2girl.

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despite the fact that they are probably directly responsible for most of what you listen to.
Heh, I know that's certainly true for me-all the artists I love have been influenced by/worked with/had references in their songs to the Beatles. So it's hard for me to not like them as a result of that. . Thanks, guys! .

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do you cringe when Elenor Rigby is played?
I certainly don't. I love that song. .

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Old 08-11-2004, 01:48 PM   #18
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I don't know anyone who hates The Beatles - and I don't know that anyone here has said they do. You can admire what The Beatles created without actually being a fan. I would never take their musical legacy away from them. But I don't see how not being a fan of The Beatles makes anyone a bad music lover (so to speak) because we choose to love music that came after The Beatles more than we actually love The Beatles.

We all like different things - but I don't think we should call into question anyone's music lover cred if you aren't a mondo Beatles fan.
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I dont really want to get into this, not worth having a fight about. That being said, I agree with Basstrap more than anyone else in this thread.
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Old 08-11-2004, 04:16 PM   #20
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You're right, a band and whether or not someone likes them is NEVER worth a fight, b/c it's purely subjective and a personal opinion - even if it is The Beatles. I'm sure we can all have a great discussion here without people getting overly sensitive and feeling the need to insult people. It's how you say it more often than it is what you say.
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I do hate The Beatles now though
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Old 08-12-2004, 04:39 AM   #23
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I have a fair dose of respect for the Beatles but my perspective on pop music doesn't start at 1962. Which is to say the Beatles were terribly innovative but they did NOT exist in a vacuum, not even close.

Also I think music IS worth fighting over. Otherwise why have a forum? To talk about how much we all love U2 for the ten millionth time?
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Old 08-12-2004, 08:30 AM   #25
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I ignored them for a long time, then got into them; now I just have respect for them...I don't listen to them alot.

alot of their tunes are over-rated, especially the early stuff. But some of their later material I think is better than U2. also, they were cutting edge for their time....even now, "Tommorrow Never Knows" sounds cutting edge to me. The bass line to "Rain" is virtuoso. "Strawberry Fileds" arrangement is amazing.

bottom line is that the set the template for everyone else to follow in rock and roll in alot of ways, and then Led Zeppelin came and filled in the rest.
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Well said Kieran on both counts.

They certainly did not spring up in a vacuum - though it glosses over and romanticizes a lot of their story, the Athology documentary/book gives you a very good idea of all the influences the Beatles made use of.

I think people tend to forget that while the mop tops were the biggest band in the world at times (1964, 1967), there were other groups around in those days that were topping the charts and getting great reviews and making music that was no less worthy.

History has a tendency to have its own process of natural selection where certain bits and pieces go missing...
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Also I think music IS worth fighting over. Otherwise why have a forum? To talk about how much we all love U2 for the ten millionth time?
Music IS worth discussing - passionately discussing at that. It is NOT worth fighting about to the point where you insult people, you know?
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I guess that by 'fighting', I mean 'discussing passionately'. I'm not for hurting people, but vigorous discussion is the only reason to bother with a forum. So yes, things will get heated at times.
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Without the Beatles, we'd probably be listening to even more dreadful pop songs.
The Beatles paved the way for rock music as we know it today.
The list of groups that mention the Beatles as their main influence is quite long.
Lennon/McCartney songs are timeless, as or the Beatles.
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The silliest thing I ever saw is people criticizing them for being a "Boy Band" and that they were nothing more than "awful teen pop" I really believe some people should listen to more of the catalog before judging, and I also believe some people fail to appreciate that the Beatles were a lot more than just music you may or may not like: they are a cultural, historical and influential icon.
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