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UberBeaver said:
Why does Canada hate Ottawa? Or is it just the Sens?

I don't think it's hate, it's just that this team has been such a letdown year after year after year in the playoffs. It's hard to give them the respect or benefit of the doubt that they will win the Stanley Cup.

Although, for some it's truly hate.:wink:
 
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for the Canucks. Luongo played amazing only to lose by being distracted by the call for a hit ( I didn't think it was a penalty hit, the dude was bent over with his head at elbow level reaching for the puck, thus a bone-crunching hit) and not staying focused on the play. Sucky ending for a tough series.
 
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That's the first Canucks game I've watched in years - most of their players didn't impress me but Luongo is absolutely amazing! He singlehandedly carried that game tonight 2 goals on 62 shots! Way to go! :up:
 
I just hope people don't start dumping on Luongo for letting the goal to lose the series. I mean it was a horrible goal under any circumstances let alone 2ndOT to decide a playoff series. But he was the best Canuck player in the playoffs by far. He will be an even better goaltender after this experience. I heard people ragging him for the giveaway goal behind the net a couple of games ago. I said "Luongo is the best player on the Canucks and hardly deserves any criticism since he was the only player on the team who was playing like someone who wanted to win the Cup unlike the Suckdin twins."

Sixty saves or so this game and all I will hear at work tomorrow is Canuck fans dumping on Luongo for the last goal. I am not even a Canuck fan but I will straighten those people out.:wink:
 
Well said, trev. Luongo is the reason we even made it that far.

I didn't start thinking a win tonight would be possible until the first OT. That was a great period.

I don't have much else to say. I'm disappointed, and pretty frustrated.
 
ladywithspinninghead said:


I know...:hug:

But it's not too late to come over to the dark side....
Senators *cough* cough*

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Dark side :hmm:


And I just happened to be looking at the new Star Wars stamps that the USPS are putting out later this month...

Coincidence ~ I think not :ohmy:
 
Well, that game cost me $150.

(The sportsbooks were giving Vancouver 2-1 odds to win. I don't care if they're down 3-1, playing on the road and have a bunch of guys banged up -- no playoff team is ever less than a 33% shot to win a game.)
 
trevster2k said:
I just hope people don't start dumping on Luongo for letting the goal to lose the series. I mean it was a horrible goal under any circumstances let alone 2ndOT to decide a playoff series. But he was the best Canuck player in the playoffs by far. He will be an even better goaltender after this experience. I heard people ragging him for the giveaway goal behind the net a couple of games ago. I said "Luongo is the best player on the Canucks and hardly deserves any criticism since he was the only player on the team who was playing like someone who wanted to win the Cup unlike the Suckdin twins."

Sixty saves or so this game and all I will hear at work tomorrow is Canuck fans dumping on Luongo for the last goal. I am not even a Canuck fan but I will straighten those people out.:wink:

:up: The Canuks looked really misrable out there, they had a 5 on 3 power play for over a minute and did squat with it...

They basically stood still for most of the night and watched Luongo work his ass off... :tsk:
 
Jeremy Roenick just said "Shit-aki mushrooms happens" on TSN in reference to Ray Emery missing the team plane to NJ. :lol:

Pierre McGuire sounds shocked that the 2 refs missed a too many men on the ice call against the Rangers. Where has he been? That sounds like normal NHL officiating to me.
 
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Well...

My two most despised teams in the West are going head to head (Anahiem vs Detroit :yawn: ) so I won't be watching any of those games... :down:

Ottawa and Buffao though, :love: That oughta be pretty good series as long Buffalo doesn't choke against the Rangers today. Considering the battles these teams had during the regular season it could be interesting...
 
elevated_u2_fan said:


Ottawa and Buffao though, :love: That oughta be pretty good series as long Buffalo doesn't choke against the Rangers today. Considering the battles these teams had during the regular season it could be interesting...
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I agree, that's going to be quite a match-up (if it comes to that, of course - but then again I doubt the Rangers can win 2 straight vs Buffalo). Buffalo is playing like the Sens of past playoff years - not stepping it up and not being physical enough. I hope Ottawa plays them as the Rangers are quite a physical team; and then I say Ottawa in 6 :)
 
There's been a lot of talk in these playoffs about the record number of one-goal games and the relative lack of goals, period.

There was a debate on TSN this morning about what, if anything, needs to be done. Dave Hodge was saying perhaps it's time to go 4 on 4 while someone else said he thinks maybe they should go to bigger nets.

But in watching the World Hockey Championships I can't help but wonder that NHL owners missed the boat when they built so many new arenas and decided to keep the ice the same size. They had a golden opportunity to make the ice surface bigger and they opted not to. And why? Because a bigger ice surface would mean less seats and less seats means less money.

There are those that say that games on larger ice surfaces are still low scoring affairs. While that may be true there are some points that need to be considered.

Number one, players have gotten bigger and stronger, with bigger and better equipment. Add to that the fact that now there are two referees and that means that there is barely any room on the ice.

Also, for me, a high-scoring game is not necessarily more exciting than a low-scoring one. What makes a game exciting is the scoring chances, and, with little room out there we're seeing very few opportunities to score.

One need only look at the number of blocked shots in the playoffs to see that there is precious little room out there.
 
4 on 4 OT playoffs would see me saying goodbye to the NHL. :| I only watch the playoffs as it is. I used to know every player in the NHL and watch every game until the mid-90's but lost interest. In most sports btw, for a variety of reasons.

It's the playoffs. Scoring is always lower in the playoffs, teams play much tighter and match line vs line on a level beyond the regular season. Playing the same team 4-7 times in a row leads to tighter games as coaching staffs study their opponents to adapt their on ice strategies and limit scoring opportunities. The salary cap has also introduced a level of parity in the league as can be seen in the standings of this past season. Many teams are fairly evenly matched in the new NHL leading to tightly contested matchups.

Would a bigger ice surface improve scoring? Maybe, maybe not, coaches would adapt their defenses and play to minimize scoring even on a bigger surface. Teams are not coached to score more goals but to not let in goals these days, or so it seems to me compared to the 80's. Most of today's NHL athletes are playing at the same skill level too. There used to be an obvious disparity between the A-players and B-players in the NHL where a Gretzky, Orr or Bossy could exploit the inability of a defenseman to keep up with them. Most "fighters" don't make the NHL anymore thus removing one pylon from the lineup and it's rare to see a player deke another player out of his pants which was fairly common in the past.

Also, today's goalies are highly skilled, bigger and more athletic compared to goalies of the past and commentators regularly say the only way to beat goalies is traffic in front of the net which is the new strategy. Yesterday's goalies did not cover the net as well as the 6 ft plus goalies we have on every team in the NHL today. Not to mention their giant lighter goalie pads, and supersize blocker and glove. The net size consideration might have some legitimacy.

I would consider banning shot blocking to improve scoring. The act of defensemen dropping to the ice is a relatively recent phenomenon in the NHL over the past 15 years or so. There were the odd players who did this but now everyone does it. This behaviour was not a factor in the past and shots on net reached the net while some were inadvertently blocked by someone standing in the path of the puck. Some games have more shot blocks than shots on net, it's crazy. There is still plenty of puck movement but players can't get the puck to the net with all the player's covering the ice surface.

Regardless, the NHL is a joke in the sense that every year the GM's have a meeting to tweak the game and nothing helps. Improving the officiating would go a long way to improving the game and the attempt to remove clutching and grabbing is a good start along with the illegal crosschecking of players in front of the net. MLB, NFL and the NBA don't meet every season and consider lowering the pitcher's mound or basket,shortening the distance between bases to enhance base stealing, widening the field or expanding the size of the basketball court or net to improve scoring or fix the game.
 
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I'm looking forward to the Sens/Sabres series as well. Unlike most people living in Canada, I don't despise the Sens. :wink: It's only the Leafs, Sabres and Bruins that I have an intense loathing for.
 
GibsonGirl said:
Unlike most people living in Canada, I don't despise the Sens. :wink:


You haven't participated in enough elections yet to feel the hate for Ottawa.
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Actually, Buffalo deserves a shot at the cup after being ripped off by this crappy non-call back in 1999. Foot in the crease meant no goal in 1999 for the whole season except for the Stanley Cup winning goal in triple OT. Way to disregard the rule book.

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^ I remember that night...awful! Gary Bettman took so much heat after that.

I think I'm going for Detroit at this point. Dan Cleary is the next best thing to Michael Ryder, in terms of Newfoundland players. Ryane Clowe is also pretty great for San Jose, however :hmm:

Buffalo would be my runner-up fav. They've got a lot of character, and also seem pretty modest. I'm not sure exactly why I despise Ottawa. Probably because they don't seem like Buffalo :wink: I tend to label teams for dramatic purposes.
 
Dan Cleary, Michael Ryder and Ryan Clowe had redeemed the good name of Newfoundland players after the poor efforts of John Slaney and Terry Ryan.

I lost faith in SJ when they gave up that 2-0 lead to lose 3-2. That's not what Stanley Cup winning teams do. Shows lack of character and :heart: I guess I will go 2-2 this round unless SJ shows :heart: in the third period.
 
^ You are officially 2-2 :wink:

Clowe and Cleary were both played heavily in the final minutes.

You're right about Slanely and Ryan :( So much promise. And who can forget Darren Langdon, that perennial 30-second-a-game dynamo? I sure can!

Detroit/Anaheim should be great. I'll say Detroit in six.

Ottawa/Buffalo: Buffalo in seven. This might actually be the most intense series in years, based on raw skill, and the fact that they absolutely hate each other.
 
I can't believe it but there are tickets still available for the upcoming Ottawa-Buffalo game :shocked:
I'd stand no chance in Montreal or T.O.

Unfortunately I'll be out West though - oh well, next year's playoffs!
 
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