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Old 06-19-2007, 09:12 PM   #136
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Bernie has been saying stuff like this since I was into F1 in the mid 70's. His act was always tired, yet the guy is like a cockroach. An atomic bomb couldn't get rid of him. It would just turn him into Godzilla Ecclestone (this was for INDY ) But he's right about F1 in the USA. It really doesn't need it. But if they could get a track where the cars could stretch their legs and allow some places for passing, I think it would do much better here. Little chance of that happening though.

I enjoyed watching them in Long Beach when we had the chance.
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I agree. I have a Yearbook from '86 (? ) where Long Beach was in it and it looks a lot better. Atmosphere seems better.

India is getting a race and I think it's pretty inevitable we'll lose ours. The whole reason the numbers were down were because there were no V8's. It happens at the Gold Coast. Officially it's the Indy series, but no cares about that, the V8s are the main attraction.
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I think F1 needs to be where it will be successful. Though the USGP has the numbers in attendance, is it popular on a mass scale across the country? It seems Americans, in general, are only interested in sport that involves Americans. More American drivers and more US corporate sponsorship would seem to be the answer, but to the rest of the world that would seem unfair, orchestrated, and could possibly alienate F1's long time fans.

F1 is popular in countries like Malaysia, Bahrain, and Canada - and that's without a driver now - because F1 is a sense of belonging to the global village. We don't need to have drivers in F1 to be interested in the sport.

If Lewis Hamilton was American then F1 would surely kick some ass in the US, but I just wish it wasn't for that reason.
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I think F1 needs to be where it will be successful. Though the USGP has the numbers in attendance, is it popular on a mass scale across the country? It seems Americans, in general, are only interested in sport that involves Americans. More American drivers and more US corporate sponsorship would seem to be the answer, but to the rest of the world that would seem unfair, orchestrated, and could possibly alienate F1's long time fans.

F1 is popular in countries like Malaysia, Bahrain, and Canada - and that's without a driver now - because F1 is a sense of belonging to the global village. We don't need to have drivers in F1 to be interested in the sport.

If Lewis Hamilton was American then F1 would surely kick some ass in the US, but I just wish it wasn't for that reason.

I agree again. Scott Speed is the only US driver in F1. And he sucks. I think more support would be beneficial.

I think that if Lewis was from the US the situation would be very different. The support would tenfold not only because he's successful and American, but also black and without trying to be racist I think there would be a muich larger supporter base there.
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Long Beach never had trouble drawing crowds to F1, but I think in the end, F1 was just too much trouble to deal with when the Indy cars could be used instead. It didn't hurt having Mario Andretti contending for the drivers championship those years either with Lotus.

I think if they could just settle on a track and give it a go for a few years it would eventually become something for people to plan on going to. But if Ecclestone is still calling the shots, I'm not counting on it. And it's much easier for F1 to just go to a country that will bend over backwards for a race. Can't really blame them either.
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I miss Paul Stoddart.

I miss him taking it up to the big guys ie Ferrari, Bernie and Max Walker.
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Old 06-27-2007, 09:42 AM   #142
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Bernie has been saying stuff like this since I was into F1 in the mid 70's. His act was always tired, yet the guy is like a cockroach. An atomic bomb couldn't get rid of him. It would just turn him into Godzilla Ecclestone (this was for INDY ) But he's right about F1 in the USA. It really doesn't need it. But if they could get a track where the cars could stretch their legs and allow some places for passing, I think it would do much better here. Little chance of that happening though.

I enjoyed watching them in Long Beach when we had the chance.
Whether or not F1 comes back to Indianapolis is solely in the hands of two people.

Tony George and Bernie Ecclestone? Gracious no, this is much too important...only these two can help us now.

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With the Canadian GP and Mexico, it seems the USA would be an easy and logical stop. But nothing is easy for F1. Ecclestone is a butthole.

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there's a round on people...
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With the Canadian GP and Mexico, it seems the USA would be an easy and logical stop. But nothing is easy for F1. Ecclestone is a butthole.
There is no Mexico GP. The closest they come to Mexico, other than Canada, is Brazil, which is the last race of the year.
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I haven't been following F1 very closely since, well, the 90's were a bit of a blur for me.

But I seem to recall them racing there when I was following more closely in the 70's & 80's. I could be wrong.

Maybe I should take over F1 scheduling
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French GP, last time at Magny Cours for a while, but the drivers don't seem to be too miffed. I never liked driving it in Nigel Mansel's World Championship, anyway.

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Pos No Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps
1 5 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:15.303 1:14.822 1:15.034
2 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:14.805 1:14.795 1:15.104
3 6 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:14.872 1:14.828 1:15.257
4 10 Robert Kubica BMW 1:15.778 1:15.066 1:15.493
5 3 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:16.047 1:15.227 1:15.674
6 4 Heikki Kovalainen Renault 1:15.524 1:15.272 1:15.826
7 9 Nick Heidfeld BMW 1:15.783 1:15.149 1:15.900
8 12 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:16.118 1:15.379 1:15.935
9 16 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:16.092 1:15.331 1:16.328
10 1 Fernando Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.322 1:15.084
11 11 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:15.760 1:15.534
12 7 Jenson Button Honda 1:16.113 1:15.584
13 8 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:16.140 1:15.761
14 15 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:15.746 1:15.806
15 19 Scott Speed STR-Ferrari 1:15.980 1:16.049
16 14 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:15.915
17 18 Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Ferrari 1:16.142
18 17 Alexander Wurz Williams-Toyota 1:16.241
19 22 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:16.244
20 23 Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1:16.366
21 21 Christijan Albers Spyker-Ferrari 1:17.826
22 20 Adrian Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 1:17.915
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3 more hours to go. Just got in(2am Hongcouver time) and will probably have to go to sleep and tape it. The concert for Diana will have to take a back seat for the race though. The Ferrari's are looking back to norm for this weekend so it should be an exciting race up front but I'm going to put my money on Hammy winning again.
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Lucky its school holidays otherwise I'd be a very tired boy tomorrow

Better be a dran good race
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