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Old 01-09-2008, 12:10 AM   #586
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Hope they beat the Hawks...they're horrible at home!
Hell of an overtime goal in that one...listening to the Nucks game here, 2-2 with about 8 min left
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:35 AM   #587
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Hope they beat the Hawks...they're horrible at home!
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That was a pretty exciting win!
I only caught the third period on a crappy streaming video but it was sweet none the less.
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The Leafs make me want to rip my hair out and eat it...
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Ah, it's nice to have (one) team to root for that doesn't suck balls.

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Ah, it's nice to have (one) team to root for that doesn't suck balls.

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This just proves getting into football was a mistake for you.
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The Leafs make me want to rip my hair out and eat it...
So if Sundin gets traded, would that make you angrier?
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So if Sundin gets traded, would that make you angrier?
I can't decide...

He seriously is the most talented Leaf right now and 99% of the time you can see the effort that he puts in while the rest just skate around in circles...

On the other hand we need to clean house and it would be better to trade him now before he becomes a free agent or there is the off chance of an injury...

It would be nice to see him actually win a cup as well, if not with the Leafs then someone else.
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This just proves getting into football was a mistake for you.
So says the Lions fan
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I've always liked Mats Sundin and respected his game. He doesn't really dazzle you watching him, but he generally makes the smart play, the heads-up pass, and he does it all without drawing a ton of attention. He's sort of the Swedish Steve Yzerman in a way.

Nice win by the suddenly rolling Flyers last night...surprising hat trick for Scott Hartnell and an encouraging return from concussion by Gagne. Nittymaki seems to have his confidence back and is playing very stingy goal too
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Yeah the Leafs should move Sundin. Better for all parties involved. But I'm not sure JF Jr. has the ability to do it.
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As per Bob McKenzie's Blog on TSN:

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/mckenzie/?id=227069

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Blog: Ferguson on borrowed time

1/11/2008

Amid all the obvious and raging speculation on the future of John Ferguson Jr. with the Toronto Maple Leafs, the truth is it looks as though he has been working on borrowed time for quite some time.

Even before the Leafs plunged back into the abyss – losing 10 of their last 12 and failing to win a game in regulation time since Dec. 14th – the Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment board of directors have been engaged in activities that can only be construed as laying the groundwork for life after JFJ.

Back in late November, around the time when the Leafs were skidding out of control – punctuated by a horrific 5-1 loss to the Coyotes in Phoenix on Nov. 24 – sources say the folks at MLSE commissioned a detailed evaluation of not only Ferguson's work as GM, but the work of all 30 GMs in the league.

Ironically, the Leafs went on to win six games in a seven-game stretch shortly after that, but sources say the same executive search firm that the Leafs engaged in the off-season to hire a “mentor” or senior advisor to work with Ferguson was asked to do a league-wide evaluation of each team's top hockey executive.

Sources say MLSE wanted to gauge where Ferguson fit in amongst his peers in terms of performance, on everything from drafting to trading to free agency. But it can also be construed as an exercise in determining which NHL GMs are the most proficient and which, if any, of them could be enticed to come to the Maple Leafs in the same fashion that MLSE wooed Toronto Raptor GM Bryan Colangelo away from the Phoenix Suns.

Also, while the Leafs were in the midst of their surge of six wins in seven games, and while the league-wide study of the GMs was being conducted, sources tell TSN that member(s) of the MLSE board were directly contacting some hockey people to find out if: a) they might be interested in the Leafs' general manager job; and/or b) to get input on who would be a good choice.

Now that the Leafs are on a free fall, the speculation on the future of Ferguson has naturally hit a crescendo. The Globe and Mail reported on its website today that, for all intents and purposes, Ferguson is finished as GM of the Leafs and obliquely suggested he could be relieved of his duties as early as next week, when the MLSE board will convene in what appears to be a response to the plight of the team.

A cynic would suggest Ferguson has been toast since the loss to Phoenix in late November and that the MLSE board is either incapable of putting together a plan to replace him in the short term or is waiting on the executive search firm's league-wide evaluation of the GMs.

In any case, it's a mess.

The team is in a death spiral on the ice. They are led by a lame-duck GM whose focus and philosophy has been on building a team that can compete for a playoff spot and were it to get one, make some noise in the post-season. This effort has been done at the expense of the future, trading away significant chunks of the team's future. Now, as it becomes apparent the playoffs are but a pipe dream, the recognition is settling in that the Leafs have no choice but to start a massive rebuilding program that would include trading any veteran assets that might be moved, from captain Mats Sundin on down.

But if that's to be done, it must be done in the next six weeks, before the Feb . 26th trade deadline, which would mean that unless there is a dismissal, the same GM who supervised the building program that has ultimately failed will be charged with overseeing the re-building program.

Either that, or the Leafs will continue to muddle on with the status quo.

What was obvious in late November is even more obvious now – the MLSE board is paralyzed to act because it doesn't know where to turn, how to turn or whom to turn to.

Logic would suggest that is likely to change soon enough, but that is not to be confused with having a well thought out succession plan.
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I hate to see a team with tradition in this position. Besides the Leafs you've got the 49ers and Dolphins, the Knicks, the Orioles, Notre Dame football...it's good to see the Celtics and Tigers out of that group.

Of course if the NY Yankees were to go in the toilet for 25 years I wouldn't exactly be heartbroken
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