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Old 05-04-2008, 11:43 AM   #316
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Sounds good.

One hugely baffling U2 moment to me is that they included TTYW on JT but left off Spanish Eyes.

And the entire RAH tracklist is baffling.
Most of their tracklisting and setlist choices are strange. And they're poor judges of their own songs, as shown by some of their filler tracks compared to their B-sides.
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TTYW would have fit pretty well on RAH with Heartland and Silver and Gold.
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Old 05-04-2008, 11:48 AM   #318
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Most of their tracklisting and setlist choices are strange. And they're poor judges of their own songs, as shown by some of their filler tracks compared to their B-sides.
All bands have this "problem". Just look at how X&Y was handled, or how Oasis' The Masterplan is superior to anything they've made in 10 years. And often, as with Mercy in EYKIW, the praise of some b-sides or demos just gets inflated due to their rarity.
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I don't mean songs like Mercy. I mean high quality B-sides that most people agree are very good. The Unforgettable Fire era being the ideal example.
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Both songs are equally throwaway and would feel out of character for the album, but one is far less repetitive. They made the right choice.
Luckily, you and U2 are the only people who think this.

Spanish Eyes should have not just been on JT, but been a single. It would have been a MASSIVE hit.
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Luckily, you and U2 are the only people who think this.

Spanish Eyes should have not just been on JT, but been a single. It would have been a MASSIVE hit.
No offense, Axver, but I don't think you're the best person here to judge commercial appeal.
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I don't mean songs like Mercy. I mean high quality B-sides that most people agree are very good. The Unforgettable Fire era being the ideal example.
Oh yeah, now there's a baffling era.

- The Three Sunrises and Love Comes Tumbling relegated to an EP.
- The worst instrumental of the lot, 4th Of July, makes the album. Bass Trap doesn't.
- EPAA, which would have been an interesting b-side, makes the album.
- All in all, the album is much shorter than it ever should've been.
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No offense, Axver, but I don't think you're the best person here to judge commercial appeal.
You're kidding yourself if you don't think Spanish Eyes is immensely catchy. Now there's a radio hit.
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I don't mean songs like Mercy. I mean high quality B-sides that most people agree are very good. The Unforgettable Fire era being the ideal example.
Oh, that I can agree with. 4th of July over Bass Trap? Indian Summer Sky over Boomerang II? Elvis Presley And America over Love Comes Tumbling or The Three Sunrises? Ouch.
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I'd place Indian Summer Sky at least level with Boomerang II. I've never quite understood why this forum in general isn't so keen on it. It has great atmosphere, with a nice touch of darkness about it.
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Oh yeah, now there's a baffling era.

- The Three Sunrises and Love Comes Tumbling relegated to an EP.
- The worst instrumental of the lot, 4th Of July, makes the album. Bass Trap doesn't.
- EPAA, which would have been an interesting b-side, makes the album.
- All in all, the album is much shorter than it ever should've been.
The Three Sunrises, Love Comes Tumbling, Bass Trap, and Boomerang II all should have definitely been on the album:

1. A Sort of Homecoming
2. Pride (In the Name of Love)
3. Wire
4. Indian Summer Sky
5. The Unforgettable Fire
6. Promenade
7. The Three Sunrises
8. Boomerang II
9. Bass Trap
10. Love Comes Tumbling
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I've likened up to ISS. It also fits well with Wire.
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I'd place Indian Summer Sky at least level with Boomerang II. I've never quite understood why this forum in general isn't so keen on it. It has great atmosphere, with a nice touch of darkness about it.
I just feel it doesn't fit well on the album AT ALL. The lyrical connection is there, but the sound isn't. You could say the same about Wire, but I find it difficult to bash that song because it's so awesome.

And you're right; UF should have been much longer. The sound of UF meshes well with that brand of free-spirited sprawl.
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I just feel it doesn't fit well on the album AT ALL. The lyrical connection is there, but the sound isn't. You could say the same about Wire, but I find it difficult to bash that song because it's so awesome.

And you're right; UF should have been much longer. The sound of UF meshes well with that brand of free-spirited sprawl.
Well, sonically, its position on the tracklisting is a bit funny. It's like they decided they needed something that rocked a little on the second side, so they just tossed ISS there without any consideration for whether or not it fit there. I think if you worked with the tracklisting a bit, you could get ISS to fit in rather nicely. If it were near Wire, ASOH, and Boomerang II, it would make sense.
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Well, sonically, its position on the tracklisting is a bit funny. It's like they decided they needed something that rocked a little on the second side, so they just tossed ISS there without any consideration for whether or not it fit there. I think if you worked with the tracklisting a bit, you could get ISS to fit in rather nicely. If it were near Wire, ASOH, and Boomerang II, it would make sense.
Yeah, the sequencing hurts ISS more than its own sound. I'm probably biased though because I've never cared for it. It's a shame that they never played it enough live for it to improve its reputation; they basically left it for dead.
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