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Old 12-30-2005, 12:47 PM   #1
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" Stones 'smash own concert record'"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4568658.stm

The Rolling Stones have made more money than U2 in the USA - I guess they will probably beat them worldwide overall?
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You mean someone actually has information about how the concert was coming along? I haven't seen or read a peep on how the Rolling Stones' concert was doing, or how much they sold. (Ok, I wasn't looking for it). But at least, for their sakes, it was successful.
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i'm not surprised in the least... they played a ton of stadium shows where they sold hundreds of floor tickets closer to the stage for 450 bucks a pop, plus on stage box seats for 250 bucks a pop, and every seat on the floor that wasn't 450 was at least over 100 bucks a piece.

u2 may have had more people attend, but the stones charged so damned much that it was a given that they'd make more money.... plus it probably cost them less to put on the tour because they were sponsored by ameriquest.
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Thats bs, the stones charge 300+ for a seat while u2 only go as high as 170
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can you really fault someone for charing that much if people will still pay it/
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Thats bs, the stones charge 300+ for a seat while u2 only go as high as 170
you can buy 2 good U2 tickets for 1 ok stones ticket......I don't remeber what my ticket cost..but it was a sucky seat for way too much money.
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can you really fault someone for charing that much if people will still pay it/
nope..you really cannot, its like that with alot of stuff.
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U2 charge less and this year U2 also did a European tour which is NOT a part of these figures.

Not sure if the Stones toured Europe as well. If not, then this isn't a very valid comparision.
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Stones played 42 NA shows vs 78 U2 NA shows

Stones est 1.4 million people earning $ 162 million VS U2 est 1.2 million earning $ 138.9 million

The numbers are North America only, not the world.

The Stones and probably U2 and many older artists can charge much higher ticket prices since the majority of their fans are adults who aren't living off Ramen noodles,well, some of us still are but you know what I mean, their main fanbase isn't 15 year old teenagers. It's all about the demographics.
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Who the hell cares? NOT ME

U2 could be the richest, if they wanted to be. Radiohead could be up there, too.
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U2 could be the richest, if they wanted to be. Radiohead could be up there, too.
could u2 have had this record if they really wanted to try for it? yes... deffinetly.

radiohead? no chance in hell. it's not the late 90s anymore... radiohead's popularity isn't on the same level as coldplay, let alone u2 or the stones.

you need to appeal to more than just the diehards and music junkies in order to set these sorts of records. radiohead, maybe by choice, just doesn't do that.
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How about Pearl Jam?

It's all about putting the love before the money, not vice versa.
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Re: " Stones 'smash own concert record'"

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The Rolling Stones have made more money than U2 in the USA - I guess they will probably beat them worldwide overall?

For the 2005 VERTIGO tour, this is U2's worldwide total:

GROSS: $294,795,607
ATTENDANCE: 3,414,556
SHOWS: 110
SELLOUTS: 110

Notice that U2 did not come close to satisfying demand this year either. The Band will play 20 plus shows in markets outside of Europe and North America in 2006 and VERTIGO will be the first tour in history to cross the $400 million dollar mark, when the tour ends in April!

But, if U2 wanted to continue the tour, they could play several dozen more stadium shows throughout Europe and North America adding potentially another $200 million dollars in GROSS to the figure.

U2 already has the record for the highest GROSSING tour in European history:

GROSS: $155,932,214
ATTENDANCE: 1,982,458
AVERAGE GROSS PER SHOW: $4,872,882
AVERAGE ATTENDANCE PER SHOW: 61,952
SHOWS: 32
SELLOUTS: 32

All 32 shows sold out the day they were put on sale. Notice that several Rolling Stones shows for their upcoming tour of Europe still have tickets available weeks after first going on sale.

Also, early reports from Argentina, a Rolling Stones Stronghold, show that U2 shows there are selling faster than the current Rolling Stones shows on sale there.


The Stones may eventually top U2 when it comes to GROSS because U2 is ending its tour early from a commercial standpoint and the Stones will obviously extend the tour for how ever long it takes them to top U2's GROSS total achieved in mid-April 2006. But the VERTIGO tour will set a worldwide record when it finishes in April 2006 and will have a GROSS total at that time than no other artist has ever achieved in history. This is a first for U2, and the first time another artist has set a global record like this other than the Rolling Stones since the early 1970s.
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Stones played 42 NA shows vs 78 U2 NA shows

Stones est 1.4 million people earning $ 162 million VS U2 est 1.2 million earning $ 138.9 million

The numbers are North America only, not the world.

The Stones and probably U2 and many older artists can charge much higher ticket prices since the majority of their fans are adults who aren't living off Ramen noodles,well, some of us still are but you know what I mean, their main fanbase isn't 15 year old teenagers. It's all about the demographics.
Thats actually incorrect. U2 played to 1.4 million people in North America in 2005. The Stones only played to 1.2 million people, but GROSSED $162 million dollars vs $138 million for U2.


Some would say that kids living with their parents have more disposable income and time to be going to concerts than older people who have a house, car, and kids to take care of. So no, I think the democraphic arguement is incorrect. AC/DC ticket price are similar to Coldplays and other young groups.

Bottom line, the price you charge is based on supply and demand, its that simple. These artist charge their market value and there are many older groups with older fan bases that charge less for tickets than some of today's young artist.

Here are the official statistics for U2's North American tour:

GROSS: $138,863,393
ATTENDANCE: 1,432,098
AVERAGE GROSS PER SHOW: $1,780,299
AVERAGE ATTENDANCE PER SHOW: 18,360
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $96.96
SHOWS: 78
SELLOUTS: 78
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could u2 have had this record if they really wanted to try for it? yes... deffinetly.

radiohead? no chance in hell. it's not the late 90s anymore... radiohead's popularity isn't on the same level as coldplay, let alone u2 or the stones.

you need to appeal to more than just the diehards and music junkies in order to set these sorts of records. radiohead, maybe by choice, just doesn't do that.
Radiohead at their peak were not any popular than U2 was with the Unforgettable Fire album and tour. Being a huge star among the critics and indie scene does not mean one is a huge star among the general public. Radioheads biggest selling album sold less than U2's POP!
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Just in case anyone was wondering how U2 did for each of their 110 shows in 2005, here are the results:



1ST LEG of VERTIGO WORLD TOUR: NORTH AMERICA

1, 2. San Diego, California : March 28, 30, 2005 : ipayOne Center at the Sports Arena : GROSS $2,909,029 : ATTENDANCE 29,140 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

3, 4. Anaheim, California : April 1-2, 2005 : Arrowhead Pond : GROSS $3,454,198 : ATTENDANCE 33,535 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

5, 6. Los Angeles, California : April 5-6, 2005 : Staples Center : GROSS $3,673,850 : ATTENDANCE 34,527 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

7, 8. San Jose, California : April 9-10, 2005 : HP Pavillion : GROSS $3,357,098 : ATTENDANCE 36,140 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

9, 10. Glendale, Arizona : April 14-15, 2005 : Glendale Arena : GROSS $3,198,861 : ATTENDANCE 34,905 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

11, 12. Denver Colorado : April 20-21, 2005 : Pepsi Center : GROSS $3,509,741 : ATTENDANCE 36,714 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

13, 14. Seattle, Washington : April 24-25, 2005 : Key Arena : GROSS $3,105,574 : ATTENDANCE 30,251 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

15, 16. Vancouver, British Columbia : April 28-29, 2005 : General Motors Place : GROSS $3,020,466 : ATTENDANCE 37,031 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

17, 18, 19, 20. Chicago, Illinois : May 7-12, 2005 : United Center : GROSS $7,541,679 : ATTENDANCE 77,173 : SHOWS 4 : SELLOUTS 4

21, 25. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania : May 14-22, 2005 : Wachovia Center : GROSS $3,767,178 : ATTENDANCE 39,273 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

22, 23. East Rutherford, New Jersey : May 17-18, 2005 : Continental Airlines Arena : GROSS $3,838,066 : ATTENDANCE 40,347 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

24. New York, New York : May 21, 2005 : Madison Square Garden : GROSS $1,907,086 : ATTENDANCE 18,415 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

26, 27, 28. Boston, Mass. : May 24, 26, 28, 2005 : FleetCenter : GROSS $5,071,565 : ATTENDANCE 51,658 : SHOWS 3 : SELLOUTS 3

1ST LEG of VERTIGO WORLD TOUR TOTALS

GROSS: $48,354,391
ATTENDANCE: 499,109
AVERAGE GROSS PER SHOW: $1,726,942.5
AVERAGE ATTENDANCE PER SHOW: 17,825
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $96.88
SHOWS: 28
SELLOUTS: 28



2ND LEG OF VERTIGO WORLD TOUR: EUROPE

29. Brussels, Belgium : June 10, 2005 : Koning Boudewijn Stadion : GROSS $4,864,554 : ATTENDANCE 60,499 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

30. Gelsenkirchen, Germany : June 12, 2005 : Arena AufSchalke : GROSS $4,203,947 : ATTENDANCE 59,120 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

31, 32. Manchester, England : June 14-15, 2005 : City Of Manchester Stadium : GROSS $11,119,740 : ATTENDANCE 107,671 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

33, 34. London, England : June 18-19, 2005 : Twickenham Stadium : GROSS $13,677,410 : ATTENDANCE 110,796 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

35. Glasgow, Scotland : June 21, 2005 : Hampden Park : GROSS $5,819,053 : ATTENDANCE 53,395 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

36, 37, 38. Dublin, Ireland : June 24-25, 27, 2005 : Croke Park : GROSS $21,163,695 : ATTENDANCE 246,743 : SHOWS 3 : SELLOUTS 3

39. Cardiff, Wales : June 29, 2005 : Millennium Stadium : GROSS $6,406,073 : ATTENDANCE 63,677 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

40. Vienna, Austria : July 2, 2005 : Ernst Happel Stadion : GROSS $4,200,416 : ATTENDANCE 55,645 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

41. Chorzow, Poland : July 5, 2005 : Stadion Slaski : GROSS $3,127,416 : ATTENDANCE 64,711 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

42. Berlin, Germany : July 7, 2005 : Olympiastadion : GROSS $4,725,530 : ATTENDANCE 70,443 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

43, 44. Paris, France : July 9-10, 2005 : Stade De France : GROSS $11,822,645 : ATTENDANCE 160,349 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

45, 46, 47. Amsterdam, The Netherlands : July 13, 15-16, 2005 : Amsterdam Arena : GROSS $13,022,200 : ATTENDANCE 165,516 : SHOWS 3 : SELLOUTS 3

48. Zurich, Switzerland : July 18, 2005 : Stadion Letzigrund : GROSS $3,574,993 : ATTENDANCE 44,260 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

49, 50. Milan, Italy : July 20-21, 2005 : Stadio San Siro : GROSS $7,565,264 : ATTENDANCE 137,427 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

51. Rome, Italy : July 23, 2005 : Stadio Olimpico : GROSS $4,010,779 : ATTENDANCE 67,002 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

52. Oslo, Norway : July 27, 2005 : Valle Hovin : GROSS $3,765,136 : ATTENDANCE 40,000 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

53. Goteborg, Sweden : July 29, 2005 : Ullevi Stadion : GROSS $4,081,864 : ATTENDANCE 58,478 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

54. Copenhagen, Denmark : July 31, 2005 : Parken Stadion : GROSS $3,650,294 : ATTENDANCE 50,000 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

55. Munich, Germany : August 3, 2005 : Olympiastadion : GROSS $5,343,379 : ATTENDANCE 77,435 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

56. Nice, France : August 5, 2005 : Parc des Sports Charles-Ehrmann : GROSS $3,548,702 : ATTENDANCE 51,900 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

57. Barcelona, Spain : August 7, 2005 : Camp Nou : GROSS $5,130,437 : ATTENDANCE 81,269 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

58. San Sebastian, Spain : August 9, 2005 : Estadio de Anoeta : GROSS $2,936,571 : ATTENDANCE 43,720 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

59. Madrid, Spain : August 11, 2005 : Estadio Vicente Calderon : GROSS $3,679,354 : ATTENDANCE 57,040 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

60. Lisbon, Portugal : August 14, 2005 : Estadio Jose Alvalade : GROSS $4,492,762 : ATTENDANCE 55,362 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1





2ND LEG OF VERTIGO WORLD TOUR TOTALS

GROSS: $155,932,214
ATTENDANCE: 1,982,458
AVERAGE GROSS PER SHOW: $4,872,882
AVERAGE ATTENDANCE PER SHOW: 61,952
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $78.66
SHOWS: 32
SELLOUTS: 32







3RD LEG OF VERTIGO WORLD TOUR: NORTH AMERICA


61, 62, 63, 64. Toronto, Ontario : Sept. 12, 14, 16-17, 2005 : Air Canada Centre : GROSS $7,624,870 : ATTENDANCE 82,572 : SHOWS 4 : SELLOUTS 4

65, 66. Chicago, Illinois : Sept. 20-21, 2005 : United Center : GROSS $3,795,583 : ATTENDANCE 38,815 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

67. Minneapolis, Minn. : Sept. 23, 2005 : Target Center : GROSS $1,823,883 : ATTENDANCE 19,328 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

68. Milwaukee, Wis. : Sept. 25, 2005 : Bradley Center : GROSS $1,782,895 : ATTENDANCE 19,336 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

69, 70. Boston, Mass. : October 3-4, 2005 : TD Banknorth Garden : GROSS $3,381,429 : ATTENDANCE 34,488 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

71, 72, 73, 74, 75. New York, N.Y. : Oct. 7-8, 10-11, 14, 2005 : Madison Square Garden : GROSS $9,658,009 : ATTENDANCE 93,275 : SHOWS 5 : SELLOUTS 5

76, 77. Philadelphia, PA : Oct. 16-17, 2005 : Wachovia Center : GROSS $3,773,053 : ATTENDANCE 39,305 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

78, 79. Washington, D.C. : Oct. 19-20, 2005 : MCI Center : GROSS $3,902,569 : ATTENDANCE 38,181 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

80. Pittsburgh, PA : Oct. 22, 2005 : Melon Arena : GROSS $1,636,798 : ATTENDANCE 16,899 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

81, 82. Auburn Hills, Mich. : Oct. 24-25, 2005 : Palace of Auburn Hills : GROSS $3,951,103 : ATTENDANCE 41,379 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

83. Houston, TX : Oct. 28, 2005 : Toyota Center : GROSS $1,652,699 : ATTENDANCE 17,002 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

84. Dallas, TX : Oct. 29, 2005 : American Airlines Center : GROSS $1,689,471 : ATTENDANCE 17,988 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

85, 86. Los Angeles, Calif. : Nov. 1-2, 2005 : Staples Center : GROSS $3,656,978 : ATTENDANCE 34,291 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

87, 88. Las Vegas, Nev. : Nov. 4-5, 2005 : MGM Grand Garden : GROSS $3,864,843 : ATTENDANCE 31,863 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

89, 90. Oakland, Calif. : Nov. 8-9, 2005 : Oakland Arena : GROSS $3,638,620 : ATTENDANCE 36,340 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

91, 92. Miami, Fla. : Nov. 13-14, 2005 : American Airlines Arena : GROSS $3,589,942 : ATTENDANCE 37,354 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

93. Tampa, Fla. : Nov. 16, 2005 : St. Pete Times Forum : GROSS $1,825,243 : ATTENDANCE 19,354 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

94, 95. Atlanta, Ga. : Nov. 18-19, 2005 : Philips Arena : GROSS $3,500,572 : ATTENDANCE 36,334 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

96, 97. New York, N.Y. : Nov. 21-22, 2005 : Madison Square Garden : GROSS $3,859,828 : ATTENDANCE 37,314 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

98. Ottawa : Nov. 25, 2005 : Corel Centre : GROSS $1,486,710 : ATTENDANCE 18,647 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

99, 100. Montreal, Quebec : Nov. 26, 28, 2005 : Bell Centre : GROSS $3,575,491 : ATTENDANCE 43,294 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

101, 102. Boston, Mass. : Dec. 4-5, 2005 : TD Banknorth Garden : GROSS $3,400,861 : ATTENDANCE 34,583 : SHOWS 2 : SELLOUTS 2

103. Hartford, Conn. : Dec. 7, 2005 : Hartford Civic Center : GROSS $1,542,471 : ATTENDANCE 16,165 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

104. Buffalo, N.Y. : Dec. 9, 2005 : HSBC Arena : GROSS $1,711,094 : ATTENDANCE 18,826 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

105. Cleveland, Ohio : Dec. 10, 2005 : Quicken Loans Arena : GROSS $1,791,497 : ATTENDANCE 19,765 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

106. Charlotte, N.C. : Dec. 12, 2005 : Charlotte Bobcats Arena : GROSS $1,672,440 : ATTENDANCE 17,804 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

107. St. Louis, Mo. : Dec. 14, 2005 : Savvis Center : GROSS $1,839,020 : ATTENDANCE 19,923 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

108. Omaha, Nebraska : Dec. 15, 2005 : Qwest Center : GROSS $1,500,834 : ATTENDANCE 16,134 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

109. Salt Lake City, Utah : Dec. 17, 2005 : Delta Center : GROSS $1,709,317 : ATTENDANCE 18,197 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1

110. Portland, Ore. : Dec. 19, 2005 : Rose Garden : GROSS $1,670,879 : ATTENDANCE 18,233 : SHOWS 1 : SELLOUTS 1






3RD LEG OF VERTIGO WORLD TOUR TOTALS TO DATE

GROSS: $90,509,002
ATTENDANCE: 932,989
AVERAGE GROSS PER SHOW: $1,810,180
AVERAGE ATTENDANCE PER SHOW: 18,659
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $97.01
SHOWS: 50
SELLOUTS: 50







Combined 1st, 2nd, and 3rd LEG VERTIGO TOUR TOTALS TO DATE

GROSS: $294,795,607
ATTENDANCE: 3,414,556
SHOWS: 110
SELLOUTS: 110
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U2's HTDAAB VS. Rolling Stones "A Bigger Bang" in sales.

WORLDWIDE

"A Bigger Bang" 1.5 million sold


HTDAAB 9.5 million sold





Within the United States

"A Bigger Bang" 470,000 sold


HTDAAB 2,976,437 sold
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For love or money?

Rolling Stones are the most overrated overblown (and overpriced) jukebox in the world. How many new songs are they playing on their tour?

Actaully, how much of their set list is taken up by songs recorded since 1990?

Rolling Stones = Yawn. Turn up, pay your 400 bucks and then listen to the same old tunes that they've been banging out live since the 70s.

Is anyone seriously saying that they're a better live draw than U2?
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For love or money?

Rolling Stones are the most overrated overblown (and overpriced) jukebox in the world. How many new songs are they playing on their tour?

Actaully, how much of their set list is taken up by songs recorded since 1990?

Rolling Stones = Yawn. Turn up, pay your 400 bucks and then listen to the same old tunes that they've been banging out live since the 70s.

Is anyone seriously saying that they're a better live draw than U2?
i saw both the stones and u2 this year.

while i obviously had a better time at the u2 shows than the stones shows, based on the fact that i'm a u2 hardcore fanatic and i only just like the stones, the stones stage production and live energy did blow me away.

mick, at 20+ years bono's elder, had twice the on stage energy that bono had durring any of the 9 vertigo shows i went to, and their stage production blew the glorified wheelchair ramps of the vertigo stage away.
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mick, at 20+ years bono's elder, had twice the on stage energy that bono had durring any of the 9 vertigo shows i went to, and their stage production blew the glorified wheelchair ramps of the vertigo stage away.
That's because he's rock & roll's first clone

And don't worry about Bono. He'll really be in high gear for the Mercy 2008 tour
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