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Old 02-16-2005, 05:01 AM   #31
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Start putting money on the Blue Jackets.
As what? The first U.S. team to fold due to the ongoing lockout?
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if they don't get a deal done now... it's an absolute joke.
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TSN is reporting that it's over... Bettman to announce cancelation of season at 1pm, and he's already sent a memo to all teams announcing the cancelation of the season.

buuuut... other reports are saying that there's only a 4.5 million dollar difference, and that the sides are close to a deal
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Old 02-16-2005, 09:17 AM   #35
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A lot of fans sided with the League but I think that will change if Bettman proceeds with the cancelation when only a few million dollars U.S. separates them.My god, Bettman would be an idiot to cancel the season now, when the two sides are so close.
Philosophical differences have been surmounted, now it`s just down to the numbers.
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you could look at it that way...

or you could look at it this way... it's obvious that the owners aren't budging, and aren't ever gonna budge... so if you're the players, why not give in? if you don't give in now, you're gonna have to give in eventually.

the players have already given in on tons of issues... the owners have barely budged. it's time the players realized that the owners aren't gonna budge, so just make a deal and play the season.
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Bettman's speaking now...
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It's official... the season has been canceled.
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The owners are a bunch of greedy fuckers.

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i hope he gets hit by a bus on his way home
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i give bettman credit for sticking to his guns on this... the players should have realized this months ago.

the owners are 100% right on this issue... the players know it... but the higher ups in the NFLPA are all drinking the goodenow kool-aid.

when the 2005-2006 season begins, if a deal is not in place yet and replacement players are brought in... look for a mass breaking of rank amongst the NHLPA.
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I do agree with you Headache that Bettman`s position is commendable but I would disagree that they haven`t budged at all; they just recently caved in on the linkage to revenue position and according to Bettman`s letter to Goodenow, they increased their offer by $75 million - it wasn`t unreasonable for the players to expect the league to be flexible with the remaining $6-7 million that was in dispute.
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I do agree with you Headache that Bettman`s position is commendable but I would disagree that they haven`t budged at all; they just recently caved in on the linkage to revenue position and according to Bettman`s letter to Goodenow, they increased their offer by $75 million - it wasn`t unreasonable for the players to expect the league to be flexible with the remaining $6-7 million that was in dispute.
true... they budged on the numbers, but they never budged on their ideals. the players said at the start that they'd never ever agree to a cap, and then as the deadline neared, they did agree to a cap.

the way bettman's talking, there is deffinetly going to be a 2005-2006 season, and whoever shows up... plays. replacements, scabs... line breakers... there will be hockey next season. bettman's gonna go back to his hard line stance, he's gonna open up the buildings, and that's that. if you wanna play, break ranks. if you don't, we'll find someone else.

and maybe it's just me, but every time someone says "linkage" in this press conference, all i can think of is george costanza and his "shrinkage"
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i forget which players said it, but some quotes in my local paper made it sound like the players were upset with the union. some things like "i just want to be able to play" were said.

a lot of players are playing otherwise for a lot less money than they would have made here. i think it is clear that most just want to be able to play hockey, and to make some money doing it.

i don't know what i'm going to do without the playoffs. throw myself headlong into the first place colorado eagles and the chl, maybe. but i don't have the money to go to their games, and they're only on tv once a month. i need more than that. march madness will be over, baseball will just be starting, and the nba sucks. after the u2 concert on april 20th, i'm not looking forward to my april, may, and early june.

i am also pissed that bettman has decided to put linkage back on the deal. in my mind anyway, that basically guarantees that this lockout is not going to end anytime soon, and suddenly next season is already in doubt....
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