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Old 09-22-2003, 09:29 PM   #16
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the jets biggest rival is the giants?

please.

dolphins...patriots...
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come on now... when one team sucks, there's really not much of a rivalry between the jets and pats, or the jets and dolphins... same goes with the giants and the skins and cowboys. was there really any buzz over the giants cowboys last year? no way... it was just another divisional game. this year, with the tuna coaching dallas, there's a little extra juice to it. it's a rivalry again. but those interdivisional rivalries are only big if the teams are playing for something. when the jets play the giants, both teams can suck, it doesn't matter... the rivalry is still there. i mean if you want to get technical, you can say that the mets biggest rivals are the braves, and the yankees the red sox... interdivisonal rivals. but when the mets suck and the braves are good, does anyone really care? oh but when the mets play the yankees, it's still a big game. no matter what the records of the teams. same thing with the giants and jets. look whatever... believe what you want to believe. but check out the bars and the tv ratings when the giants and jets play this year. the sales and ratings will be more for that one game then for this week's combined ratings of the giants vs. redskins and jets vs. pats. the numbers don't lie... ahh but whatever. i don't give a crap anymore.
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Of course the numbers are going to be huge. DUH! You have the two teams in the biggest media market playing each other. All "TV eyes" for football games will be tuned to one game instead of two. Most of the time, Jets fans aren't going to sit down and watch the Giants v. Skins game. So, yeah...LOCAL sales figures will be big. And they can charge more nationally due to it being the arbitron #1 market...but will anyone else give a crap about the game....probably not anymore than St. Louis playing KC. Will it be on in everymarket...unless it is an ESPN or Monday night...no. They will be focused on thier hometown team.

As for the rivalry thing...I have never not known a Red Sox v. Yankees game to not be a big thing because either/or team was out of contention. Yankee fans hate the Bosox, and the Boston fans HATE the Yankees. It is a lousy argument. Sure, the Giants V. Jets will be a big game...special in the fact they only see easch other every three years or longer. A rivalry...sorta. Rivalries are built when team play each other often.

Auburn Vs. Alabama (I would GUARANTEE you that there is not a soul in Alabama that would discount this game because one of the teams is having an "off season").

Army vs. Navy (when have either of these teams had an on season?)

This is why Skins and Giants...Jets v. Dolphins are a bigger rivalry. I KNOW Jets fans get up for that Miami game every year. I have been to those games. I have been to the Giants v. Cowboy games...you get pumped no matter HOW bad one of the teams is.

The Vikings could SUCK. There will be ONE game every Viking fan will look to...the Packers.
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Jets-Dolphins
Giants-Eagles

When Jets-Giants play it's more novelty.
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novelty plays to the fans... just like the subway series in baseball. and maybe i'm wrong, but i certainly see more taunts flying between giant and jet fans than i do with any other fan. and what would be the biggest super bowl a new york team could possiably be in than a giants-jets super bowl? would that not be the biggest game in new york football history? ahh whatever... doesn't really matter. i wasn't trying to break any ground with this thread... just havin' a laugh.

and giants stadium is under 8 miles from the manhattan side enterance to the lincoln tunnel. when i said 5-10 minutes i meant distance wise... light traffic. as we all know, driving 8 miles in new york traffic could take anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour depending on the time you do it. i appologize... next time i'll use my distance in miles, rather than minutes.
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Ya know what would suck? A Giants/Jets Superbowl would be played in Cali or Tampa. They should have a Superbowl in the cold of the northeast, Giants Stadium, Orchard Park, or Foxboro.
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novelty plays to the fans... just like the subway series in baseball. and maybe i'm wrong, but i certainly see more taunts flying between giant and jet fans than i do with any other fan.
Truuuuue. But do you see a lot of Eagles, Skins or Cowboy fans walking around the streets of NY area taunting Giants fans and vice versa. No, because they are in Philly, DC and Dallas.
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ahhh i don't care anymore. i'm in idiot, i admit it. leave me alone

and as for the new york super bowl... it is rumored to be in the works...
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IS there still talk of a new stadium in Manhattan fro the Jets?

There there Mr. Headache....no hard feelings. Just kind little reminders that New York is not the center of the universe..it is just the capitol of the world.
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ahhh yes... the Jets would play in the Olympic Stadium following the 2012 Olympics, assuming New York wins and gets 'em

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but then again... we're still waiting for new stadiums for the yankees...


and the mets...

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that looks like a penis

i like it
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that looks like a penis

i like it
Um, ahhh, Um.

You like the look of a penis?
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speak of the devil... from espn.com

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- New York-New Jersey, compromised by a stalemate over potential renovations to Giants Stadium, may no longer be a viable candidate to host the 2008 Super Bowl, USA Today reported Tuesday.

According to the report, NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue questioned whether New York-New Jersey representatives would be prepared to present when the owners meet to vote on the game's host Oct. 29-30 in Chicago.

New York Giants executive vice president John Mara, so incensed by the renovations standoff, suggested that the team may go to court to enforce its view of its stadium lease. The Giants extended the lease in 1995 by another 10 years, binding the team to the stadium through 2026. In exchange, the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority agreed to maintain the 80,242-seat stadium to keep it comparable with current state-of-the-art venues.

"We don't want to have to resort to legal action to enforce it under the lease. That would be the last straw," Mara told USA Today. "But if it comes to that, so be it.

"The league has made it clear for some time that in order for us to be considered for a Super Bowl, Giants Stadium needed to be renovated and updated," he said. "I'm not sure they will allow us to make a presentation at the end of October. ... I am fairly sure there is no chance to get a Super Bowl without a renovation agreement in place."

George Zoffinger, head of the exposition authority, remains publicly indifferent to the looming deadline.

"We don't have to have the Super Bowl in 2008," he told the newspaper. "Maybe we can have it in a later year."

Reports place the estimated renovation costs to allow Giants Stadium to host Super Bowl XLII at around $290 million. According to the paper, the Giants want more club seats, wider concourses to accommodate more concession stands, and more restrooms. The team is willing to pay for that in exchange for the right to operate the stadium and keep the vast majority of all revenue.

Zoffinger told the paper that those improvement costs should come at the team's expense.

"We're in the same battle where taxpayers basically say that if wealthy team owners want to make improvements to increase revenue, they should do so with their own money," he told the paper.

Washington, the other cold-weather venue, stands to gain from New York-New Jersey's problems.

"The commissioner has told our owner he would love to see the Super Bowl in Washington or New York," Redskins chief operating officer David Pauken told the paper. "If there are challenges in New York, it would be helpful to us, certainly."

The stadium's other tenants -- the New York Jets -- are focused on building a retractable-roof stadium on Manhattan's west side. They are not involved in the renovation negotiations.
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