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Old 10-31-2004, 03:11 PM   #16
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the red sox won.

but the red sox predominatly bought their title.

point really boils down to:

sox fans cant bitch about the yankees spending because what the sox are to the yankees money wise, the rest of the mlb exception a few teams are to the sox.

regardless, boston won. but they had to do it much like new york would.
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because the nation says so... and the nation is never wrong

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it's fine and dandy for somebody to hate the yankees. but god forbid somebody hate the red sox, too. they must be a yankee fan.

or they can just see through the hypocrisy of the red sox management/fans complaining about the yankees payroll when they themselves have the second highest payroll in baseball.

thus, i hate both teams.

but that said... again... the teams spending the most money is only part of what's wrong with baseball's economic structure. the current CBA was supposedly put in place to even out the playing field. only one owner voted against it... george steinbrenner. everyone claimed it was just steinbrenner being greedy, because it's cool to hate steinbrenner and blame him for everything. but king george was merely being a realist. he voted against the CBA because he claimed that it would
a) not make him or anyone else for that matter stop paying high prices for free agents, which it did not... and most importantly
b) it would not force the small market teams to spend the revnue sharing that they get from the luxary tax.

carl pholad owns the minnesota twins... one of the "small market" teams that can't compete. pohlad is a multi-billionaire. his fortune dwarfs steinbrenner's. the money that the twins got from the luxary tax that was applied to both the yankees and red sox payrolls went directly into pohlad's pocket, making a multi-billionaire, who has more money than steinbrenner, henry & luchino combined, even richer. THAT, my friends, is the real problem with baseball's salary structure.

i hate the red sox and yankees not because of how much money they spend... i hate them because frankly i can't stand the fan bases of either team. but let's get something straight and clear here... the most evil man in baseball is not named steinbrenner, cashman, luchino, henry or epstein. the most evil man in baseball, and the biggest obsticle in ever getting a true fair system installed, goes by the name of Selig.
and let me just add that i for one am not trying to make excuses or belittle the red sox accomplishment. they won the championship fair and square, playing completely within the current rules set forth by the CBA. the red sox and their fans deserve this championship, and they deserve to raise that banner high over fenway park... just as the yankees deserved to win the championships they won durring the late 90s, because they, too, were playing completely within the rules of the CBA.
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Old 10-31-2004, 05:23 PM   #18
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Ya'll want some cheese to go with that whine? St. Louis spent more than Houston. Do ya feel bad they beat them? I haven't seen any threads started by Sox fans bashing the Card, or Yanks really for that matter. Enough with the disguised sour grapes, statements about "congrats to the Sox, BUT..."
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you're missing the point

nobody here is whining that the red sox spent money to win a championship

this thread is to point out the annoying hypocricy of red sox fans that call the yankees the "evil empire"
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that's because sox vs yankees / NYC Vs Boston = great rivalry in sports
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so?
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cards had thier chance
they blew it ,


take it easy
prepare for next season ,

and that is a diplomatic way to say it










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umm this thread isnt even about the cards vs the red sox
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fine... enough with the so called sour grapes about the red sox. let's also have enough of the bitching about the yankees spending lots of money, then. seems only fair, seeing as both teams do it.
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Old 11-01-2004, 12:50 PM   #26
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i dont recall mentioning st louis aside from a financial comparision, in which i didnt even complain

so please re read next time

and that is a diplomatic way of saying it
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means about as much to me as bruce springsteen supporting kerry, which is nothing at all.




although it really looks like they're about to kiss each other.
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An objective thread where the main posters are Cards fans and the greatest Yankee fan of all?
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An objective thread where the main posters are Cards fans and the greatest Yankee fan of all?
here we go again with the i'm a yankee fan chat. really... it's getting old. i'm sorry that i hate the red sox. really am. apparently that's very offensive to a lot of people in here, who just can't imagine why i would hate them. oh well.

i also appologize for having spent 4 years of my life studying sports management in college, because that has caused me to analyze baseball's financial situation more closely than just saying "yankees spend a lot of money, they suck." my sincere appologies for that, as well.

i also appologize for attempting to be an objective fan. i guess it comes with rooting for a team that blows. i'd sound pretty damn stupid if i said the yankees sucked when i root for a team that's finished well under .500 two years in a row. apparently that doesn't bother a large number of people. a team that wins 100+ games, no matter how much you may dislike them, doesn't suck, despite what many people feel.

oh well... again... my appologies.
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although it really looks like they're about to kiss each other.
thus why i posted it
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