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It's difficult for me to listen to Atomic Bomb any more without the accompanying impulse for self-mutilation.
 
Bomb is flawed, but I still enjoy listening to it. Pretty much the whole B-side of ATYCLB does nothing for me whatsoever.
 
I think ATYCLB works better as an album than Bomb, but I'm not sure I prefer it to Bomb. They both have things I like and things I don't.

I think No Line is by far better than either of them, even if No Line falls short of being a cohesive album, thanks to that middle 3-song section of wtf-ery.
 
I think All That You Can't Leave Behind is fantastic, and one of their most cohesive and best functioning works in regards to being "an album", personally. I can understand people not liking the direction and sound, and particularly feeling like it was a wuss move to "go back to basics" and abandoning the experimental years. I still like it though. I can't remember the last time I listened to it, but it meant a ton to me when it came out, and still does.

Conversely, Atomic Bomb is an in-cohesive abortion to my ears in regards to the "album" format, and made me lose more respect and interest in the band than anything they'd done prior. It's all 100% arbitrary though, I can get people liking it for all the reasons I hate it.

Whatever you think is fantastic, someone else out there thinks is complete garbage, and vice versa. There's never going to be an album or a setlist that all of will agree on, so I have a hard time getting too upset by it, but I can still understand why others do and appreciate people being passionate about it.

I do think it's sad they're not playing more new songs, but I think we're all kind of in the minority on this forum as not only being fanatics of the band, but music in general. We know more than singles, we don't get all our music from mainstream radio, we still listen to (and love) full albums, we get that bands tour to promote new material, we actually WANT to hear that material, we're sad if we don't hear it, we'll give something we haven't heard before a chance, and we don't instantly sit down or go to the bathroom if a song's intro does not feature a shredding guitar or thunderous drums and bass. I'd sadly guess that the majority of people who supposedly "love music" don't fit into those categories. Seeing everyone in our section immediately sit down with bored looks on their faces or get up to go to the restroom 30 seconds into Your Blue Room's live debut just made me feel really sad for all of them not knowing or understanding what they were witnessing.
 
ATYCLB contains everything I dislike about 00s U2. A number of the tracks are cloying, overproduced shlock. HTDAAB, at worst, is just mediocre.
 
ATYCLB contains everything I dislike about 00s U2. A number of the tracks are cloying, overproduced shlock. HTDAAB, at worst, is just mediocre.

As if The Bomb isn't just a studio-polished turd? Song-by-song it may be better, but it's a singles album.

Like Scumbo, I appreciate Behind for what it is to some degree, and come away loving the shit out of "In a Little While," "Walk On," and "When I Look at the World." I've definitely gone back to this album more than the Bomb, that's for sure.

The staying power of No Line remains to be seen. At the very least, I can take away the opening 4 tracks and "Breathe" and be a happy camper.
 
And see, I think is the worst song they've ever coughed into a hankie. The worst.

I know NSW digs it a lot, too. I love how understated it is, even if some of the lyrics turn into a straight cheesefest towards the end.

"Kite" would be a Top 20 track for me if it weren't for the last verse. Seriously. It's like they're trying to sabotage their own album.
 
It's like it's porn I'm not allowed to see. :shifty:

If you squint hard enough you can make some things out. :shifty:

Now please allow me to give a "spoiler" about It Might Get Loud, despite saying that I wouldn't: It's 100% awesome. Sorry, April. Hopefully this spoiler hasn't completely ruined your viewing of it today. :wink:

Thanks for allowing me to remain pure, even though I just got back myself about two hours ago and OMG YES IT WAS. I think I sat like a child in awe on Christmas morning for the entire 98 minutes. Awesomness times infinity. Besides the obvious fangirl factor, Jack White's my homie and well, you just have to give it up to Jimmy Page. Great stuff.

I think All That You Can't Leave Behind is fantastic, and one of their most cohesive and best functioning works in regards to being "an album", personally. I can understand people not liking the direction and sound, and particularly feeling like it was a wuss move to "go back to basics" and abandoning the experimental years. I still like it though. I can't remember the last time I listened to it, but it meant a ton to me when it came out, and still does.

Whatever you think is fantastic, someone else out there thinks is complete garbage, and vice versa. There's never going to be an album or a setlist that all of will agree on, so I have a hard time getting too upset by it, but I can still understand why others do and appreciate people being passionate about it.

I do think it's sad they're not playing more new songs, but I think we're all kind of in the minority on this forum as not only being fanatics of the band, but music in general. We know more than singles, we don't get all our music from mainstream radio, we still listen to (and love) full albums, we get that bands tour to promote new material, we actually WANT to hear that material, we're sad if we don't hear it, we'll give something we haven't heard before a chance, and we don't instantly sit down or go to the bathroom if a song's intro does not feature a shredding guitar or thunderous drums and bass. I'd sadly guess that the majority of people who supposedly "love music" don't fit into those categories. Seeing everyone in our section immediately sit down with bored looks on their faces or get up to go to the restroom 30 seconds into Your Blue Room's live debut just made me feel really sad for all of them not knowing or understanding what they were witnessing.

This.

Re: ATYCLB - My sanity was hanging by a thread around the time that album came out, and it really helped me deal with a lot of crap I was going through at the time. So, even though I don't go back to it as much as some of the other albums, it holds a very special and personal place in my heart.
 
Guess who just bitchslapped his first official college paper? I did. Take that, establishment.
 
I don't dislike either song, but don't particularly love them either.
 
Re: ATYCLB - My sanity was hanging by a thread around the time that album came out, and it really helped me deal with a lot of crap I was going through at the time. So, even though I don't go back to it as much as some of the other albums, it holds a very special and personal place in my heart.



me too.
 
I know NSW digs it a lot, too. I love how understated it is, even if some of the lyrics turn into a straight cheesefest towards the end.

"Kite" would be a Top 20 track for me if it weren't for the last verse. Seriously. It's like they're trying to sabotage their own album.

Guess who was smart and didn't do the last verse when he played this song?

I can do things.
 
I think All That You Can't Leave Behind is fantastic, and one of their most cohesive and best functioning works in regards to being "an album", personally. I can understand people not liking the direction and sound, and particularly feeling like it was a wuss move to "go back to basics" and abandoning the experimental years. I still like it though. I can't remember the last time I listened to it, but it meant a ton to me when it came out, and still does.

Conversely, Atomic Bomb is an in-cohesive abortion to my ears in regards to the "album" format, and made me lose more respect and interest in the band than anything they'd done prior. It's all 100% arbitrary though, I can get people liking it for all the reasons I hate it.

Whatever you think is fantastic, someone else out there thinks is complete garbage, and vice versa. There's never going to be an album or a setlist that all of will agree on, so I have a hard time getting too upset by it, but I can still understand why others do and appreciate people being passionate about it.

I do think it's sad they're not playing more new songs, but I think we're all kind of in the minority on this forum as not only being fanatics of the band, but music in general. We know more than singles, we don't get all our music from mainstream radio, we still listen to (and love) full albums, we get that bands tour to promote new material, we actually WANT to hear that material, we're sad if we don't hear it, we'll give something we haven't heard before a chance, and we don't instantly sit down or go to the bathroom if a song's intro does not feature a shredding guitar or thunderous drums and bass. I'd sadly guess that the majority of people who supposedly "love music" don't fit into those categories. Seeing everyone in our section immediately sit down with bored looks on their faces or get up to go to the restroom 30 seconds into Your Blue Room's live debut just made me feel really sad for all of them not knowing or understanding what they were witnessing.

I'd argue that Unforgettable Fire, Rattle and Hum, and Bomb are by far the three albums most fucked up simply by tracklisting choices. The first by leaving off great B-sides, the second with the live mixed in, and the Bomb by leaving off Fast Cars and Smile and fucking up any semblance of flow.
 
00's:
NLOTH
ATYCLB
HTDAAB

90's:
AB
Z
P

80's:
JT
B
W
TUF
RAH
O


all together now ...
AB
JT
B
NLOTH
Z
ATYCLB
HTDAAB
W
P
TUF
RAH
O



*** everything other than the last two is pretty much awesome and a great album and i think we forget just how freaking good SC are in that they really don't totally fuck up; sure, we have embarrassments like Playboy Mansion or CFYT or Grace (easily the worst of the '00s), but i can find redeeming things in these songs, and certainly on all those albums.
 
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