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Old 09-09-2018, 05:54 PM   #161
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Poor Gloria hasn’t even showed up yet.
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Happy 4th anniversary Songs of Innocence clusterfuck!
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Happy 4th anniversary Songs of Innocence clusterfuck!


Oh as much shitty and underserved press they got, nothing will beat that day when they announced it and boom, I was listening to the new album minutes later.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:00 PM   #164
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So that's why this tour feels like it's gone on forever
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Oh as much shitty and underserved press they got, nothing will beat that day when they announced it and boom, I was listening to the new album minutes later.




They deserved all of it just for that unbelievably awkward "high one".
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Yep. They deserved it. People still talk about it. It was a fucking horrible idea.
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Yep. They deserved it. People still talk about it. It was a fucking horrible idea.


The idea was great. The execution wasn’t. Apple really deserved the backlash.
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They deserved all of it just for that unbelievably awkward "high one".
I love that photo. Particularly with Larry in the background; it's like those old newsreels of Stalin applauding himself along with colleagues at some party congress.
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The idea was great. The execution wasn’t. Apple really deserved the backlash.
Well yeah, giving away an album to all iTunes users was a great idea. Playing a glorified corporate seminar and getting all chummy on stage with the CEO of one of the world's biggest companies while you're talking about punk rock all the time was terrible optics, even without the whole forced download aspect that pissed everyone off.
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Maybe if they'd put their mediocre album out on all itunes accounts, but made it sound like one of their people did some kind of hack, and have Tim Cook indignantly protest this breach of security...
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The idea was great. The execution wasn’t. Apple really deserved the backlash.
There isn't a chance in hell U2 didn't know that it would be pushed to everyone.

The execution was the problem - if it was just something for free that you had to to get yourself, like they did with Invisible just a few months earlier? Completely different conversations would be had about this album and the band.

Having it automatically in your library whether you wanted it to be or not was incredibly stupid, and they've never truly recovered from that.
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There isn't a chance in hell U2 didn't know that it would be pushed to everyone.

The execution was the problem - if it was just something for free that you had to to get yourself, like they did with Invisible just a few months earlier? Completely different conversations would be had about this album and the band.

Having it automatically in your library whether you wanted it to be or not was incredibly stupid, and they've never truly recovered from that.


I’ve always wondered if it was an oversight of how Apple’s process worked. I’ve always turned automatic downloads off because I prefer to choose when and where something downloads. I just wonder if in theory, the idea was that anyone could choose to go to iTunes and download the album and hadn’t realized that people would essentially be stuck with it.
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I’ve always wondered if it was an oversight of how Apple’s process worked. I’ve always turned automatic downloads off because I prefer to choose when and where something downloads. I just wonder if in theory, the idea was that anyone could choose to go to iTunes and download the album and hadn’t realized that people would essentially be stuck with it.
It was placed in everyone's library. That was intentional.

Apple did free releases before Songs of Innocence. They did it with Invisible in February.

There's no way they didn't know.
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So do we no longer care about this tour?
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Basically.

If they mix things up, sure I'll be interested again. Until that point... nah. It's over, Johnny.
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that's pretty much exactly how i feel about U2 in general, these days.
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Yup.
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Same, which is a sad point for me to get to after I was so high on them in just May last year.
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I'm not there with the band in general... only with this tour.
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So do we no longer care about this tour?
Oh, I certainly do. It has just started here in Europe. Just because the tour has left North America doesn't mean it's over. I have some shows coming up.
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