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Old 07-11-2018, 06:15 PM   #21
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Interesting editorial piece about U2 and their political stance on this current tour. Link posted in this thread:

U2 Isn't Radical Now

Basically saying they're being too subtle, avoid direct repudiation of the current regime, being too soft, that pleas for unity aren't effective in this political climate, etc.
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Interesting editorial piece about U2 and their political stance on this current tour. Link posted in this thread:

U2 Isn't Radical Now

Basically saying they're being too subtle, avoid direct repudiation of the current regime, being too soft, that pleas for unity aren't effective in this political climate, etc.
Their politics are generally liberal, and liberalism is wholly unsuited to deal with what is happening right now.
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Interesting editorial piece about U2 and their political stance on this current tour. Link posted in this thread:

U2 Isn't Radical Now

Basically saying they're being too subtle, avoid direct repudiation of the current regime, being too soft, that pleas for unity aren't effective in this political climate, etc.
I read that, and it was interesting... but it's odd for them to talk about how U2 confronted the fans with uncomfortable images about the reality of America today, and how MacPhisto addressed many of the issues regarding the border and blah blah blah... but OMG they're too subtle cause Bono didn't call Trump an asshole from stage.

Like... I get not everyone is a fan of the word compromise around here. But I don't think confronting American crowds with these images and presenting them with alternative images is a bad thing.
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Their politics are generally liberal, and liberalism is wholly unsuited to deal with what is happening right now.
While I don't doubt that personally they have liberal stances, I would describe their politics as centrist, not liberal - rationalized by Bono's repeated idea that you have to work with everyone to get things done (it doesn't matter if the people who are helping fund HIV/AIDS drugs are also destroying health care for women in their own country).
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I follow that writer on Twitter, and someone had a reply that was pretty good. It was basically "we're ALL struggling over what to say/how to address the giant shitshow that's the state of the US right now."
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I follow that writer on Twitter, and someone had a reply that was pretty good. It was basically "we're ALL struggling over what to say/how to address the giant shitshow that's the state of the US right now."
This. It seems the anti-Trump crowd can't win in general no matter how they respond right now. We can't be too aggressive, lest we alienate people and motivate Trump supporters even more, but if we're too polite and civil in our criticism of this administration, that's not good enough, either, 'cause that makes it easier for the Trump brigade to run roughshod over us. How about just letting people respond and fight back in the way they personally feel will best help instead?

I'd also note that Bono, who's met with virtually almost every politician imaginable, no matter how at odds he is with them politically, in order to get support for his charity work and whatnot, doesn't seem to have any interest in meeting with Trump, which says something about where his limits lie. Promoting unity in their work doesn't have to equate to "Let's try and get along with Trump/his supporters!", after all.
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I read that, and it was interesting... but it's odd for them to talk about how U2 confronted the fans with uncomfortable images about the reality of America today, and how MacPhisto addressed many of the issues regarding the border and blah blah blah... but OMG they're too subtle cause Bono didn't call Trump an asshole from stage.

Like... I get not everyone is a fan of the word compromise around here. But I don't think confronting American crowds with these images and presenting them with alternative images is a bad thing.
Yeah. Also, all the messages U2 are 'showing' during their show in general are too subtle. But that one time Bruce Springsteen said something before playing a different song (The Ghost Of Tom Joad) from his usual Broadway setlist or that one time someone from Drive-By Truckers said something in some magazine does count as being outspoken!
The whole article comes off a bit like looking for a stick to hit the band, only because the band hasn't set themselves on fire.
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