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Old 12-11-2017, 04:05 PM   #181
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A great live band though. Mesmerizing.
Yea but I wish they'd mix up the setlists a bit more.

Paw Patrol Live! mixes up the setlist every night.
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They clearly like Tedder, and clearly had issues with Danger Mouse, yet they gave Burton a writing credit for coming up with the keyboard part of Ordinary Love and didn't give anything to Tedder on this song? Makes no sense.
Yeah, that would also make no sense to me. Plus, Tedder is a powerful producer/songwriter who has been working with some big names (Adele and Taylor Swift to name just two. No need to discuss their musical qualities, but their albums do sell a lot). It seems to me nowadays that producers are often able to claim songwriting credits on songs they've produced, because that's where the money is. Hence the many songwriters on modern records, also by big names, who are also the producer for said song at the same time.
Then it would seem strange to me that this would not happen for U2. Sure, they're still a big band with some power, but they're not the hottest act in the world anymore. So I doubt they could strongarm Tedder to give up songwriting credits if he'd made a significant contribution to the song.
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Alright, so I've listened to the new U2 album enough times to probably share a few thoughts.

Positives: I think the two best songs are Lights of Home and Little Things. I think the closer is better than Song for Someone and kind of works as it's done. I like the boldness of the opener in terms of being restrained and trying something new, and I think the vocoder actually works since it's better than Bono actually trying a falsetto in a clean mic in 2017. The Blackout is alright, though I think it could be way better executed if they tweaked some things with the chorus to make it jump more. I found Summer of Love interesting, as well.

Negatives: The rest. Tracks 3-5 are not good, with Best Thing being the best by virtue of at least working as an earworm because of the catchy melody. Get Out is an atrocious attempt at re-writing Beautiful Day, maybe the band's most naked callback to an old song ever, and it ruins any chance it would have had. American Soul is a complete mess. Red Flag Day I can't get a handle on. The Showman takes an interesting lyrical idea and ruins it with a completely nonsense chorus. The penultimate song isn't for me.

Like pretty much every 2000-now U2 album, a couple worthwhile tracks, some interesting attempts, and some real swing and misses, primarily again with the ones they choose to be singles. There are individual things that surprised me, but on the whole, this is exactly the level of quality I expected from this album, which is to say not too good. Bono is pretty much out of lyrical ideas and Edge is totally out of guitar ideas, and the band is never going to be very good when both of those things are true.
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I buckled and bought a cheap seat for the second LA show.

Still haven't heard the album. Hopefully my mailman will deliver it soon.
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But specifically regarding The National, I would say that his voice is the thing that's keeping me from jumping in full steam ahead.
Agreed.
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Those backing vocals in Red Flag Day sound more like early 80s/War era U2 than anything they've recorded since the actual War album. I love that shit.
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Revisiting Zooropa tonight. It's so wild to me that they released Numb as a single.
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Red Flag Day I can't get a handle on.
I don't even know what this means.

Also, did we ever get a full review from Cobbler? And I'm not talking about that "LiveTweet My First Listen" BS.
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Revisiting Zooropa tonight. It's so wild to me that they released Numb as a single.
What's it like to be able to just sit and listen to an album in its entirety? I forget #sad
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I absorbed so much U2 during the 92/93 period that looking back during that era I wasn’t fully aware of how awesome it truly was. I guess it was because while they were fully into the Zoo TV thing I was backtracking (making up for lost time) and absorbing the 80s catalog. So yeah, it took a few years of distancing myself from the “I missed an entire decade mindset” that I was able to look back and be able to say “Zoo TV, that was awesome.”

I didn’t have the internet until 96 so the 94 - 96 period was the dark ages for me. Yeah, the Batman soundtrack and Passengers happened but outside of those 2 things and the occasional Rolling Stone Magazine news article, it was quiet.
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Remember life before the internet? That was something, huh?
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