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Old 08-17-2007, 05:32 PM   #16
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Let's see how funny YOU are after starring in Shanghai Surprise.
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Old 08-17-2007, 05:36 PM   #17
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I can understand taking on more serious roles later in a career, look at Bill Murray for example, but to try and brush off being Spicoli is simply barbaric.

barbaric.

BARBARIC!
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I know what you mean about him being overserious and sort of humorless sometimes, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has a somewhat different persona off camera.

Anyway, a LOT of people consider the guy to be the best actor of his generation.
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:08 PM   #19
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I like Sean Penn
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:13 PM   #20
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Regardless of whether or not he annoys me, I do agree that he's an amazing actor.
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:25 PM   #21
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I have a certain amount of respect for his work, and can't really agree with the majority of the initial post, but I do think his Oscar for Mystic River was undeserved. Totally over-the-top histrionics. Ironically, he was much better (and more understated) in 21 Grams, which came out the same year. I enjoy his "mellower" roles more than the spazzy ones.

Lance, you failed to mention Dead Man Walking, and I don't know if you saw that one, but I'd find it hard to imagine denying him that one. Probably his finest work, and had Nicholas Cage not done Leaving Las Vegas that year (and equally great perf), he would have won his Oscar for something a bit more legit.

Also, I'd ike to add that although he definitely comes off as arrogant, it takes a lot of balls to be as politically outspoken (and INVOLVED) as Penn is, opening yourself to all sorts of criticism, when he could easily sit on the sidelines, saying and doing nothing. He should be commended for that even if you don't like what he says. That he was accused of helping out after Hurricane Katrina as a publicity stunt was totally shameful (not that you mentioned this incident).

You did include a picture from the organization "California Conservative", and I have to ask, do you swing to the right politically, and is that affecting your opinion of him? Not that you can't be a liberal and dislike the guy at the same time.
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I guess I should admit that the original post was fairly tongue-in-cheek, like a lot of my more "extremist" posts.

I haven't seen Dead Man Walking, thoug I likely will some day. We'll see. But I must say, I don't think the man's a bad actor. I certainly don't think he's amazing, or one of the best of his generation, but I can't really fault him too much. I do think he's a sub-par director though.

But as I've said, my biggest problem with the man is just his personality and the way he presents himself. I just don't like him. And I really don't care too much about what it is he's actually saying when it comes to politics, I'm not a very political person at all, but I don't care for the hows or whens he chooses to say it.
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Is Joe Pesci a better actor than Sean Penn?
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He's like white paint to me. I feel nothing when i see him. He is a vacous blob on screen to me.
I either not like or hate him,
I see NUTTIN [/clevland]
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From the looks of it I'm in the minority, but I freakin love Sean Penn, I find him to be an incredible actor and (at least for the last 10 years), I've pretty enjoyed all his movies and performances he's been in. It sucks that everyone seems to hate him so badly, I agree he's much too vocal on his politics that it has to overshadow his job. Hence being a guest on Real Time with Bill Maher & Colbert Report.
I can't stand going to the messageboard on imdb cause it's only used for people to talk about how much they hate him or how it was Sean's karma that his brother Chris died. Yikes!

21 grams, Sweet and Lowdown, Assassination of Richard Nixon, State of Grace, Dead Man Walking, U Turn, Thin Red Line, Mystic River, The Game etc
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From the looks of it I'm in the minority, but I freakin love Sean Penn, I find him to be an incredible actor and (at least for the last 10 years), I've pretty enjoyed all his movies and performances he's been in. It sucks that everyone seems to hate him so badly, I agree he's much too vocal on his politics that it has to overshadow his job. Hence being a guest on Real Time with Bill Maher & Colbert Report.
I can't stand going to the messageboard on imdb cause it's only used for people to talk about how much they hate him or how it was Sean's karma that his brother Chris died. Yikes!

21 grams, Sweet and Lowdown, Assassination of Richard Nixon, State of Grace, Dead Man Walking, U Turn, Thin Red Line, Mystic River, The Game etc
Ditto.
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I concur with elevation2u & NSW. Sean Penn was on my list of favorite actors as well. If you haven't seen 'Dead Man Walking', you need to! He should have won the Oscar that year for it. I didn't care for Nicholas Cage so much
I do agree that the Mystic River Oscar win was more of a cumulative one. I do like many of his performances, including I Am Sam, which somehow always gets slammed. Or maybe it's because of the type of roll.

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Sean Penn peaked when he beat up that photographer. His work since has become disconnected and pretentious.
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