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Old 06-30-2008, 08:45 AM   #676
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Do you have this rant saved somewhere so you can just copy and paste it at any appropriate instance?
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In New Zealand, the Chatham Islands are +1245.

I think I once read that Nepal used to be +0642, but is now just +0640.

Here, South Australia and the Northern Territory are +0930.
I...see.

*goes off to cry*
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Oh, I don't give a shit about the Red/One stuff. Never owned a One bracelet and I downright dislike Red.
*makes note to wear every single item of (RED) she owns next time she sees Ax*
I'll look like the michelin man with 10 t-shirts on, but it'll be good for a laugh.
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good rant.

is paul mcdermott gay, by the way?


no he's married.


thou shalt not question the sexuality nor the awesomeness of Paul.
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I do now!
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"Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat."
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Also, the argument about the high tech videos etc as a reason for static sets is a farce.

This extra technology makes it EASIER to play songs out of a perceived order. And video packages? Surely they are smart enough to have each song's visuals in it's own self contained whatever.

You would think so, but U2 are so sure no one wants to hear it any other way, that they decided it would be safe to put it all in one big file, just in the order it goes in
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is paul mcdermott gay, by the way?
If you asked this to my sister ten years ago, you would be in a poor condition right about now.
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no he's married.


thou shalt not question the sexuality nor the awesomeness of Paul.
i didnt think so. my mate said he was, but i wasnt sure.

im gonna nominate a story. "over 100 miles for reasons relating to sex"
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Also, the argument about the high tech videos etc as a reason for static sets is a farce.

This extra technology makes it EASIER to play songs out of a perceived order. And video packages? Surely they are smart enough to have each song's visuals in it's own self contained whatever.
That's what I've been saying for YEARS. I don't at all get how playing stadium shows is somehow meant to mean static sets. I accept it DOES in U2 world. But I'm willing to bet that if you look at Springsteen's sets for his ten nights at Giants Stadium or wherever it was, they were varied and I doubt he skimps on the visual presentation. I have utterly no doubt Ashley can clarify the matter and correct me if I'm wrong.
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That's what I've been saying for YEARS. I don't at all get how playing stadium shows is somehow meant to mean static sets. I accept it DOES in U2 world. But I'm willing to bet that if you look at Springsteen's sets for his ten nights at Giants Stadium or wherever it was, they were varied and I doubt he skimps on the visual presentation. I have utterly no doubt Ashley can clarify the matter and correct me if I'm wrong.
Springsteen's sets vary from night to night. This current tour, this is almost a different opener that runs into Radio Nowhere every night...
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You know, I think sometimes U2 are in a bit of a bind. They said it themselves that they thought they would be ONE of the big bands, ie the Clash, The Police, The Pretenders, Simple Minds would all be up there. But they aren't.

U2 is the only post-punk band to go mega. And there's still some leftovers from what a band was meant to be like after punk (you know the whole sell out thing) that U2 has had to deal with as opposed to how the baby boomer bands (the Stones, the Who) conducted business.

Hell I don't like half of what U2 have become. When I got into U2, they were just a little band from Ireland that noone had ever heard of and then UABRS made them a bit famous, and Live Aid a bit more famous and then JT made them mega. I don't like the ipod ad, the Grammy arse kissing etc but I accept that that is what a big band might have to do these days to be relevant to today's 16 year olds, short of wearing bling and having naked ho's in their videos.

I suppose that they're having to rewrite the rule book of "how a band behaves" when they're 48 years old.
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Point for point EXACTLY! And Jesus, it's not like he doesn't REALIZE that a lot of people go to SEVERAL shows at a time. Especially GA people. He's verbally pointed out when he's seen people on several occasions, and the fact that he danced with Miro...what THREE? times last tour is obvious enough. He knows he's got a LOT of fans that come to several concerts, own every damn version of their albums, no matter how many different ways they release them, own the dvds, own whatever merch they can get their hands on, etc. but no, let's just keep playing to the "Casual Fan" and let's make sure they remain casual fans too, by just pumping them up with those songs that they already know.

U2, you are NOT the Rolling Stones, there's no reason for you to cater to your fans in such a way, you're not that old yet, and you still have a lot of creativity in you if you'd just let it out.
EXACTLY. Ugh. If you know you have a shitload of casuals, why not expose them to the depth of your catalogue? Get them MORE interested so that they buy MORE albums? "Hey, shit, that Wire song sounded cool, I need to buy War!" rather than "I loved With Or Without You live, let's play that Best Of U2 album I own!"

And I hate this assumption that casual fans are somehow stupid fools who only know the biggest hits. I've told these stories before, but I've taken casuals to shows and songs they've said were highlights were An Cat Dubh, Party Girl, Gloria, The Electric Co., and One Tree Hill. My mother, a casual fan, was STUNNED that U2 didn't play Silver And Gold. Seriously, she can't believe it.
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... Sometimes or Stuck? I think both are too phail for even Phail to touch.
I actually meant Sometimes... I actually like it, but I wouldn't touch Stuck with a barge-pole.
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I just find Red to be very cynical commercialism. "Hey, how can we get some customers from beyond our core demographic? Hmm, Africa!"
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i didnt think so. my mate said he was, but i wasnt sure.

im gonna nominate a story. "over 100 miles for reasons relating to sex"

simplifying a very complex story here-

my one and only flight to sydney

and you know how fucking terrified of planes i am.


as i was a bridesmade in a wedding up there and the guy was the best man .


there are some other elements but i may not mention that as it makes me sound like a slut
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