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Old 01-29-2007, 11:50 PM   #31
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:07 AM   #32
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Talk about beating a dead horse.
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:13 AM   #33
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You saved yourself...barely.
Am I supposed to be relieved that I apparently escaped your wrath?

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Old 01-30-2007, 12:33 AM   #34
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Ah, brilliant. Human arrogance. We up 'here', and animals down 'there'.
We do tend to eat the things down 'there'. I hear horsemeat is really good actually, but have never had the opportunity to try it.

Anyway he'll make a fine glue so chin up guys
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At least I'm not the only insensitive asshole around here.

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Humor - what's that all about anyway?
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Old 01-30-2007, 01:13 AM   #37
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Ah, you have to understand the almost spiritual/sensual connection between women and horses.
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Ah, you have to understand the almost sensual connection between women and horses.
i once accidentally went to a website that showed that, not pleasant
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:48 AM   #39
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I said sensual.

At any rate, Barbaro was a wonderful horse. I saw that race and held out hope he'd beat the odds. He did for a long time.
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:38 AM   #40
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The Jockey Club (the Thoroughbred breed registry in the US) requires live cover for foals to be registered, so AI would not have been an option. AI is used extensively in the non racing sport horse industry, but often the qualities which make a horse good at racing don't work for other sports. Plus the stud fees for non race horses are substantially lower.
I didn't know that, thanks. I know around here with the horses it is done all of the time, but these are mostly rodeo horses. It brings a whole 'nother level of respect to the owners for trying to save him.
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:41 AM   #41
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No more snide remarks, please--a RIP thread is a RIP thread, whether it's for a human athlete, a poster's dog or a celebrity.

If you want to have a discussion about the appropriateness or lack of it in publically lamenting the loss of some particular person or being, then create a journal entry or perhaps a thread in FYM to debate the issue. Getting your agitation out by mocking one particular instance of it is inappropriate.
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Old 01-30-2007, 09:43 AM   #42
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No more snide remarks, please--a RIP thread is a RIP thread, whether it's for a human athlete, a poster's dog or a celebrity.

If you want to have a discussion about the appropriateness or lack of it in publically lamenting the loss of some particular person or being, then create a journal entry or perhaps a thread in FYM to debate the issue. Getting your agitation out by mocking one particular instance of it is inappropriate.


There's a fine line between humour and stupidity. I'm actually surprised by some of the replies to this thread. I'll be the first in line to attack horseracing, but you'll never catch me mocking one of its participants in death.

DaveC, judging by your subsequent replies after your so-called apology, I'm assuming it wasn't sincere in the first place. More like calculated. Too bad.

Also, if you want to know why we spend more time worrying about animals than AIDS orphans you should look something up on Marshall McLuhan. 'The Medium is the Message'...have you heard about him? He's Canadian. Look him up. Be a part of the solution.
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No more snide remarks, please--a RIP thread is a RIP thread, whether it's for a human athlete, a poster's dog or a celebrity.

If you want to have a discussion about the appropriateness or lack of it in publically lamenting the loss of some particular person or being, then create a journal entry or perhaps a thread in FYM to debate the issue. Getting your agitation out by mocking one particular instance of it is inappropriate.

Great post!!! I feel really bad also about Barbaro and I also feel bad about the Aids Baby from above but as I was reading this Thread it became clear to me I need to stay away from this place for awhile. It amazes and frankly makes me sick about the stupid bickering that goes on here, while a lot of you know that I'm good for a wise ass remark now and again but to take it to the level that it goes to like on this thread is just too much....... CHEERS Y'all
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Ah, brilliant. Human arrogance. We up 'here', and animals down 'there'.
i don't get the whole euthanizing thing because how can we really tell how much pain a horse is feeling? how can we honestly say that a horse would rather be dead than to live with pain? would you rather be dead or live with pain? if you couldn't communicate that feeling, would you want someone else to make the decision for you?

but as far as the whole humans are up here and animals are down there... well... yea. there is a reason why we're at the top of the food chain, just like other animals are superior to lesser animals in their own natural habitat.
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U2Kitten -- given your reasoning for your stance against euthanasia, I would guess you're a vegan or at least a vegetarian. Am I right?
Well I have tried many times, but still eat some meats cooked by other people. The only meats I really eat are burgers and hot dogs, turkey on holidays, maybe some meatloaf and sausage on pizza.

When possible, I get the 'veggie' or 'soy' burgers or hot dogs. I cannot stomach seeing the raw, bloody, uncooked meat, it's just like a dead corpse to me. If I have to cook it, I don't. (the only meat I can cook are those premade meat patties and hot dogs) I walked out of my high school home ec class when the teacher demanded we cut up a whole chicken. The sound of the bones breaking was just like a body being ripped apart (and in reality, that's exactly what it was) I have never and will never cook chicken. If I was in a position where the only way I could have meat was to hunt or butcher, then I'd go totally veggie. I still hope to be able to someday soon (very hard when hubby and kids don't accept it and won't eat vegetables) I could, however, never go vegan. You can't even have anything that uses milk or eggs, not even most bread or pasta. The way I look at that is, the chickens and cows are being given a job, instead of being killed, so buying their products keeps them alive (though they're not always treated well, but I'm treated like crap at work myself)

I am very anti- hunting. I tried to be 'pro choice' on it since I had a few cousins who liked to do it and I didn't want to believe they were bad guys, but I can't. How anyone could get a thrill out of seeing an animal alive, then killing it and standing over its body taking pictures is beyond me. I've held many a dog and cat in my arms as they died, and that look in their eyes as the life leaves them is very haunting and disturbing. I could never willingly cause it and don't understand how anyone can. I hear hunters describe their 'kills' in stores and I want to punch them. I also dislike most hunters because of the way they treat their dogs. Every year when deer season is over, I see dozens of starving, or already dead, hound dogs on the side of the road. Some hunters just toss them out of the truck, or leave them in the woods. (This has been my suspicion for years, but last year I saw a news story about it, some but not all hunters really do abandon the dogs.)

I am not against assisted suicide or euthanasia for humans IN THEIR RIGHT MIND, if that is what they truly want after much consideration. But I don't believe anyone should make the choice to end the life of another innocent creature without their consent.

Sorry for the rant, thanks for giving me the chance to explain, since I'm banned from FYM
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