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Old 08-04-2007, 10:03 PM   #31
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the people highest up got the lowest self esteem all i gotta say about rich people.
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:57 PM   #32
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Matsui can afford two apartments in New York but thinks idea silly
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i like cheese.

i think i'll buy a second cheese.
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:10 AM   #34
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i'm busy searching google [] for an old thread of mine and somehow this thread came up and I'd just like to quote this:

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You are every bit as morally decrepit as those fabulously rich characters being complaining about in this thread. People in third world countries could live on your spare change on a daily basis. Every time you buy Starbucks coffee you could be feeding a whole family for a week. The internet that you are paying for right now? The computer you are using? All as superfluous as having a second Manhattan home, in my opinion. After all, you can live without the internet just fine.

I hate seeing people come down on the rich simply because they are rich. You know that if you ever came across extra money, even a little bit of it, those dollar signs light up in your eyes and you can buy that CD you've wanted, or a paid interference subscription, or anything that is just as superfluous as a second Manhattan home.
The amount is not what is at issue here. Compared to a Colombian farmer, you are a millionaire and yet you have done nothing to help them.
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:36 PM   #35
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the "making the beds" part was funny

I think if they have the money to do whatever they want, they should

If they don't do charity or things like that is their option (they SHOULD, I would)... if you do, it's your option too

I think is important that "normal" people light'em up on those sort of issues, because clearly they don't know nothing ifthey live in a world of "chocolate paintings"... maybe this living-downtown- thing, like regular people, will open their eyes or something

no one will rott in hell for this



maybe "you"
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I was saying that is something I would do, not that it would be the only way I'd use the money, of course I'd help friends family and charity. And how do you know that if you give the money to a charity that pays someone's light bill that they might use their light bill money to buy drugs? IMO someone buying drugs is a waste of money but so is throwing it away on extravagance that isn't needed.
I totally agree - sorry I kind of left you in the lurch on this thread, I didn't have internet access all weekend.

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But I felt like I had to back up Varitek, a poster I very much agreed with and didn't like seeing them bashed.
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The amount is not what is at issue here. Compared to a Colombian farmer, you are a millionaire and yet you have done nothing to help them.
How do you know what other posters have and haven't done with their time and money?

Anyway, I didn't start this thread to bash people who have second homes - as I said in an earlier post, it makes sense to me that if you have a lot of money you might want one primary residence and one or more homes in vacation destinations with unique attributes (ski location, beach location, etc...) but I just find it really, really mindbogglingly extravagant and weird to buy a second home in the same city. And not even a secret second home for your secret girlfriend, but a second family home. I didn't mean to get into an argument of second home vs. charitable donation - probably most people who have second homes also donate a chunk of their money to charity. So maybe I mistitled the thread, sue me.
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i do agree with what pla said, that everyone is rich to someone else. here i am struggling to pay my car note, and there's someone who'd love to have a car, let alone a new one.

but i also agree with what varitek said. sure it's mostly jealousy of how much money rich people like this have, but it's also how some of them seem to be totally sheltered from normal things. nearly breaking your back while making a bed? either that bed was really high and really big and she overexerted herself, or she pulled a muscle and exaggerated. oh well, people like this will always exist and since i never run into them, it really doesn't matter to me.
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I totally agree - sorry I kind of left you in the lurch on this thread, I didn't have internet access all weekend.


thanks!
Thank you!

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Anyway, I didn't start this thread to bash people who have second homes - as I said in an earlier post, it makes sense to me that if you have a lot of money you might want one primary residence and one or more homes in vacation destinations with unique attributes (ski location, beach location, etc...) but I just find it really, really mindbogglingly extravagant and weird to buy a second home in the same city. And not even a secret second home for your secret girlfriend, but a second family home. I didn't mean to get into an argument of second home vs. charitable donation - probably most people who have second homes also donate a chunk of their money to charity. So maybe I mistitled the thread, sue me.
I agree with this too!

and boy does it annoy me when people start with the "somebody in country X is worse off" stuff. It's a different standard, doe not change the way things are here just to know that. And the last I heard Juan Valdez was doing just fine with his coffee farm!
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and boy does it annoy me when people start with the "somebody in country X is worse off" stuff. It's a different standard, doe not change the way things are here just to know that.
These "different standards" you speak of do not exist. There are only the haves, the have-nots, and everyone else inbetween. Some people live like kings in the US, just as some people live like kings in Columbia. And some people are barely able to survive in the US, just as some people are barely able to survive in Columbia. Pla's point (and an extremely good one at that) stands. It doesn't matter where you are; you will always be better off than someone else. Where you live right now, butterscotch, there are people who cannot afford to pay for a computer, much less the Internet. Your ability to afford such a commodity probably seems just as extravagant to them as a multi-millionaire's ability to afford two homes seems to you. It's very easy to point the finger at the "rich" people and make judgmental claims about their extravagance. Very easy. It's important, however, to acknowledge that personal wealth is all relative.

In my opinion, people can do whatever they want with their money. If they have earned it or inherited it without corruption, they can buy as many homes in downtown New York as they please. Would it be nice if they donated it all to charity? Of course it would! I'm a liberal with socialist leanings, so I'd love to see millionaires sharing their money with those who are less-fortunate. But ultimately, it's their money. How they choose to spend it should be of no concern to anybody, unless it is being used for illegal or immoral means. Rich people who don't deserve their money are political thieves like Robert Mugabe, an individual who has singlehandedly sapped his people of almost every cent they own in return for his personal luxury. He's the kind of person you should be pointing fingers at.
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And the last I heard Juan Valdez was doing just fine with his coffee farm!
Thank you for that statement. That really does say the world about people with your opinion.
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You, you do not deserve your money. I deserve your money.

Ha! Now I'm rich and you're dirt poor.

Suckaz.
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Thank you for that statement. That really does say the world about people with your opinion.
It was so ludicrous, I couldn't even bear to quote it.
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Thank you for that statement. That really does say the world about people with your opinion.
"Like me"? And what am I like? Do you even know what I was talking about? The classic coffee commercial? Hello? Lighthearted joke? If you want to discuss the woes of the world, take it to FYM. This was never meant to be that heavy of a discussion, but I'm sorry I was ever in it.

I've got $42 dollars in the bank and I don't get paid until next week and here I'm being lectured on poverty by people who likely make 3 times what I do. Get over yourself.

Varitek, one day I'd like to meet you and we can go out for two for a dollar hot dogs, okay!
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if you've only 42 dollars in the bank, why do you have the internet? unless of course you're using a public computer.

why do you put so much emphasis on people making more money than you? was it necessary to add that into your statement? the people lecturing you have likely paid their dues through college, graduate school and other tedious jobs and schooling.
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I've got $42 dollars in the bank and I don't get paid until next week and here I'm being lectured on poverty by people who likely make 3 times what I do. Get over yourself.
And you go around threads calling people judgmental....
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