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Old 02-11-2008, 11:52 PM   #61
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I maintain that Moore is a more enjoyable Bond than Connery. Connery's Bond is a complete and utter douche-nozzle. Running around, raping women...just not cool. From Russia With Love just might be the very best Bond film though, regardless.

I've seen all the Brosnan films, and several Moore films, but I'm really looking forward to Timothy Dalton's pair, since I've never seen them.
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I maintain that Moore is a more enjoyable Bond than Connery. Connery's Bond is a complete and utter douche-nozzle. Running around, raping women...just not cool. From Russia With Love just might be the very best Bond film though, regardless.

I've seen all the Brosnan films, and several Moore films, but I'm really looking forward to Timothy Dalton's pair, since I've never seen them.
I liked The Living Daylights a lot, which puts me in the minority. I thought, as I said a few pages ago, that the Moore films had gotten a little too cutesy, and it was nice to see a grittier Bond...but for some, he was TOO gritty, too dour. Dalton is a good actor, though, or so I think.

It's hard to argue with From Russia with Love being the best. I rate Casino Royale way up there as well.

I only liked one of the Brosnan films. It was frustrating, I'd see a Brosnan Bond film and think it was shit, but then he'd be in the Tailor of Panama or The Thomas Crowne Affair or even the Matador, and he'd be great, and the films were good too.

Eh.
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My top 3 Bond films that I've seen currently rank

1. From Russia With Love
2. Casino Royale
3. Goldeneye

The first two are solid 9's, and Goldeneye is just such a part of my adolescence I can't help but love the hell out of it.
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My top 3 Bond films that I've seen currently rank

1. From Russia With Love
2. Casino Royale
3. Goldeneye

The first two are solid 9's, and Goldeneye is just such a part of my adolescence I can't help but love the hell out of it.
I think that's why I like For Your Eyes Only so much. One of the first Bond films I actually went to see in the theater, and probably the last good Moore title. Whatever the consensus rating is for it, I likely score it higher due to that. Plus, fucking Topol is in it.

I like Goldeneye. Only Brosnan Bond film I liked at all.
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Hopefully Quantum of Solace (I'm really digging that title btw) will break the ranks, and take the top prize here. I think Marc Foster is a fine director, though it will be interesting seeing how he handles material like this. And Casino Royale set the bar for modern Bond films incredibly high. I hope it succeeds though.
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Now that the reinvention/origin story has occurred, it'll be interesting to see what happens next.

I read that they'll start to introduce some gadgetry, etc...not sure if there is a new "Q" or not.

It helps that Daniel Craig is the real fucking deal. I laughed when Bond fanatics went nuts when he was named. I like Clive Owen a lot and he'd have been an interesting Bond, perhaps, but I thought Craig was an excellent choice right away.

Having Mathieu Amalric in Quantum pleases me. He was the best thing going in Munich, and his work in Diving Bell speaks for itself.

Finding Neverland (I cried like a baby) and Monster's Ball are the only two Foster films I've seen.
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Amalric is going to be fantastic. Best casting in the entire she-bang. And I new after the first 20 minutes of Casino Royale that Craig was going to be the best Bond of the bunch. I believe I may be correct.
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Well, he's off to a fantastic start.

I loved how rough around the edges his Bond is, and it'll be fun to, hopefully, watch his progression....the scene where he's looking in the mirror as he puts on the fitted Tux was great.

It'd be cool if Amalric becomes a repeated nemesis, and not just a one and done sort.
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..the scene where he's looking in the mirror as he puts on the fitted Tux was great.
That's my favorite scene in the movie.

And if I'm completely honest, it's one of the few times watching a movie when I saw a man and was like "God damn, that he is so fucking sexy!". What a fantastic scene though. Comical, sensual, completely badass. Gave me chills.
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I can't believe we actually have a consensus of preferring Moore to Connery. We are in a very small minority.

And I'm sad that I'm the only one who liked You Only Live Twice. Maybe because I saw it in the theatre a few years back?

My Top Ranking would look like:

1. The Spy Who Loved Me
2. From Russia With Love
3. Goldfinger
4. Live and Let Die
5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

The Spy Who Loved Me just has too much awesome shit. Great opening song, probably the best pre-credit sequence, the white Lotus/submarine hybrid, Barbara Bach (quite possibly THE hottest Bond girl), the Egypt/pyramid locations, that cool underwater lair, and the funniest final line of any Bond film.

From Russia is the most solid and thrilling, but not as fun.

Lance, which Moores have you seen?
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And if I'm completely honest, it's one of the few times watching a movie when I saw a man and was like "God damn, that he is so fucking sexy!".

Just a few?


Like you don't think that every time you watch One Tree Hill.
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Bond is supposed to be a gritty douche-nozzle, though. He's a complete misogynist jerk in the Fleming books.

That being said, it's been years since I had my Bond phase and rented all the movies. the only Moore one I remember liking was THe Spy Who Loved Me. I also really loved The Living Daylights and watched it multiple times.

I was, like, 15 though. I don't know if I'd think the same if I watched them all now. I remember the last time I caught Daylights on TV, I was pretty bored. And the lead actress was dull as a doorknob. I liked Dalton, though.
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The Savages. I was really looking forward to this, loving Phillip Seymour Hoffman and reading all the great reviews. But while it seemed very realistic (and I've dealt with similar stuff with my sisters and mom and grandmother), it was kind of boring. Boring in a way that was painfully familiar, sitting in dreary nursing homes not knowing whether I was bored or just shut down because the situations were so depressing and painful that I didn't dare let myself feel anything so the boredom just masked deeper feelings. In that sense, the film has to be called a success I suppose since it was so realistic. Yet it wasn't touching in the way "Away from Her" was, for example. It was just plain depressing and sad, and drab. Left me feeling tired and empty, despite some resolution and glimmer of light at the end. Great performances, though.
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I can't believe we actually have a consensus of preferring Moore to Connery. We are in a very small minority.

And I'm sad that I'm the only one who liked You Only Live Twice. Maybe because I saw it in the theatre a few years back?

My Top Ranking would look like:

1. The Spy Who Loved Me
2. From Russia With Love
3. Goldfinger
4. Live and Let Die
5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

The Spy Who Loved Me just has too much awesome shit. Great opening song, probably the best pre-credit sequence, the white Lotus/submarine hybrid, Barbara Bach (quite possibly THE hottest Bond girl), the Egypt/pyramid locations, that cool underwater lair, and the funniest final line of any Bond film.

From Russia is the most solid and thrilling, but not as fun.

Lance, which Moores have you seen?
I barely remember The Spy Who Loved Me, but, it's up next, so, I'll watch it tonight and see if it makes my Top 5. I'd have a hard time, Laz, ranking your 4 and 5 ahead of Casino Royale.
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Casino Royale was a great reboot, but I think part of what made Bond so great was the tongue-in-cheek aspect of it. Now that was eventually taken too far, but I think trying to make such a serious film out of the franchise has taken away a bit of what made it great in the first place. The megalomaniacal villains, their henchmen, the gadgets, the puns...these became cliches, but no modern retelling is likely to charm the viewer in the way the first 10 or so did.
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