"radiohead's lp7": countdown and anticipation thread - part iii - Page 50 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Lemonade Stand > Lemonade Stand Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 10-02-2007, 12:04 AM   #736
Blue Crack Addict
 
phanan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: in the darkness on the edge of town
Posts: 25,064
Local Time: 08:25 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by martha


ok.

It'll go into my iTunes, it'll be mp3s, right? You're saying the original source not being mp3s makes the mp3s better because of the superior source?

If you purchase the songs as mp3s, they will be in lossy format, regardless of the source. That downgrades the quality of the recording.

However, if they make the download available in FLAC as well, you can then convert it to WAV files and add them to iTunes.

Then, what I do is make a CD from the WAV files so I have the best quality possible, and then also convert the WAV files to mp3 for my iPod, which iTunes can do for you.
__________________

__________________
phanan is offline  
Old 10-02-2007, 12:47 AM   #737
ONE
love, blood, life
 
AtomicBono's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Athens, Greece
Posts: 10,486
Local Time: 07:25 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by LemonMelon
LOLZ I bought it for $0.00
Yes.
__________________

__________________
AtomicBono is offline  
Old 10-02-2007, 12:54 AM   #738
Blue Crack Addict
 
Lancemc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ba Sing Se
Posts: 17,665
Local Time: 09:25 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Lancemc
01 15 STEP - Totally badass opener
02 BODYSNATCHERS - One of the best rockers they've ever done
03 NUDE - Achingly beautiful, this song is legendary
04 WEIRD FISHES/ARPEGGI - Far and away my favorite of the new stuff, I hope they blend the Ether version and the Tour version
05 ALL I NEED - Damn good song, with great album positioning
06 FAUST ARP - As long as it's anything other than Spooks I'm a happy Panda
07 RECKONER - Crazy song, can't wait to hear a studio version
08 HOUSE OF CARDS - A virtual masterpiece, if they can nail the arrangment in the studio
09 JIGSAW FALLING INTO PLACE - Open Pick = pwnage
10 VIDEOTAPE - One of the most beautiful songs Thom's ever written, though like I said I'm hoping for a non-crescendo style coda.
Just listened to a bunch of these songs again in this order (except for Faust Arp obviously). This will be one HELL of an album.

Open Pick (Jigaw, whatever) and Videotape are an unstoppable closing combo.

The first 2 tracks are a brilliant momentum machine.

And the Nude/Arpeggi/All I Need sequence it utter brilliant. Could turn out to be the best 3-song sequence ever to find its way onto a Radiohead album. I even got a little teary-eyed by the time I hit the "All I Need" climax. (Bittersweet memories )
__________________
Lancemc is offline  
Old 10-02-2007, 01:36 AM   #739
The Male
 
LemonMelon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hollywoo
Posts: 65,816
Local Time: 05:25 PM
The ballads on this album are incredible, and, outside of 15 Step, kill the rockers. Nude is so creepy, with an unusual chord sequence and some wonderful lyrics. Arpeggi is already a Radiohead classic...House Of Cards is, dare I say it (considering this is Radiohead and all), pretty damn sexy. Hypnotic, seductive, catchy, don't know what else to say. It will be a masterpiece. All I Need is also genius, and I really dig the glockenspiel or whatever that is. Videotape will be a fantastic closer.

Not entirely sold on the rockers just yet. Yeah, 15 Step is all kinds of awesome, but the incredibly hard-rocking version of Reckoner does nothing for me (it's gutsy, I'll give it that), and Bodysnatchers is merely good. I would like to hear a studio version of Jigsaw before I make any judgments, because that reel released last June made it sound very promising.
__________________


Now.
LemonMelon is online now  
Old 10-02-2007, 02:56 AM   #740
War Child
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: gulf coast
Posts: 990
Local Time: 01:25 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by martha


ok.

It'll go into my iTunes, it'll be mp3s, right? You're saying the original source not being mp3s makes the mp3s better because of the superior source?
how about go download a flac file and listen to the difference, it takes little effort
__________________
t8thgr8 is offline  
Old 10-02-2007, 04:13 AM   #741
Blue Crack Addict
 
last unicorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: lost in poetry
Posts: 19,446
Local Time: 02:25 AM
Great concept. I have all of their CD's, I like their earlier work more and certainly don't freak out about this whole new thing like some of you, but it will be interesting to see if and how it works out. I'd rather get the download than the disc set, because it's too much money to spend on stuff I don't really need (besides the CD).
__________________
last unicorn is offline  
Old 10-02-2007, 08:12 AM   #742
She's the One
 
martha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Orange County and all over the goddamn place
Posts: 42,338
Local Time: 05:25 PM
If it's going to be a pain in the ass to convert to something I can actually hear and play; if I have to download a new program or whatever to manage it, then I can wait until January.
__________________
martha is offline  
Old 10-02-2007, 08:30 AM   #743
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
xaviMF22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: In haunted attics
Posts: 7,091
Local Time: 09:25 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Lancemc


I even got a little teary-eyed by the time I hit the "All I Need" climax. (Bittersweet memories )
"I am all the things...that you choose to ignore"
__________________
xaviMF22 is offline  
Old 10-02-2007, 08:43 AM   #744
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
xaviMF22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: In haunted attics
Posts: 7,091
Local Time: 09:25 PM
Great Article up:

seems everyone is excited for this


Quote:
A record price for a Radiohead album: $0

The famed British band lets fans decide what to pay for a new release online.

By Geoff Boucher and Chris Lee, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
October 2, 2007


The great riddle facing the record industry in the digital age has been pricing. Napster and its ilk puckishly offered music for "free" in the late 1990s, and the major labels have largely clung to an average of $13 for CDs despite plummeting sales and seasons of downsizing.

Now, one of the world's most acclaimed rock bands, Radiohead, is answering that marketplace riddle with a shrug. "It's up to you," reads a message on the Web page where fans can pre-order the band's highly anticipated seventh album and pay whatever they choose, including nothing.

The British band, which has twice been nominated for a best album Grammy, will sidestep the conventional industry machinery altogether Oct. 10 by releasing the album "In Rainbow" as a digital download with no set price. The album will be available only from the band and at radiohead.com, its official site.

It may sound like a gimmicky promotion, but industry observers Monday framed it in more historical terms: Radiohead, they said, is the right band at the right time to blaze a trail of its own choosing.

"This is all anybody is talking about in the music industry today," said Bertis Downs, the longtime manager of R.E.M., the veteran alt-rock band that was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this year. "This is the sort of model that people have been talking about doing, but this is the first time an act of this stature has stepped up and done it. . . . They were a band that could go off the grid, and they did it."

Another high-profile manager said he was still trying to process the boldness of the Radiohead venture. "My head is spinning, honestly," said Kelly Curtis, who represents Seattle-based Pearl Jam. "It's very cool and very inspiring, really."

Radiohead is hardly abandoning the idea of making money.

Its website will also sell a deluxe edition of "In Rainbow" that comes with versions in three formats (CD, vinyl and download) along with eight bonus songs and a lavish hardcover book with lyrics, photos and a slipcase. That package costs 40 British pounds (about $82).

In the coming weeks, Courtyard Management, which represents the band, will reportedly negotiate with labels about a conventional release for "In Rainbow" that would put it on store shelves in 2008. Sources with the band acknowledge that the major labels may balk at the notion of releasing an album that has been available free for months. Still, previous Radiohead albums collectively sell about 300,000 copies a year, according to Nielsen SoundScan, so "In Rainbow" should still have value at the cash register.

"Only a band in Radiohead's position could pull a trick like this," is how Pitchforkmedia.com summed it up Monday. That's because the band became a free agent after its contract with music giant EMI expired with its most recent album, "Hail to the Thief" in 2003. That set the stage for a one-band revolution, even if the five members don't see it that way themselves.

"It's more of an experiment. The band is not fighting for the sake of the fight or trying to lead a revolution," said their spokesman, Steve Martin of New York publicity firm Nasty Little Man. The group declined to comment Monday.

Radiohead isn't the only artist taking bold steps to keep pace with the digital age. The firebrand R&B star Prince, for instance, has taken a maverick path by giving copies of one album away as an insert in a major British newspaper or as an extra to anyone who bought a seat on his high-grossing concert tour. Prince took considerable heat from retailers for the newspaper giveaway.

Then there's the business model of New Orleans' top rapper, Lil Wayne, who made dozens of tracks available free via the Internet to cement his stardom. Even old-school icon Bruce Springsteen seems to see the changing times. He gave away downloads of his new song, the aptly titled "Radio Nowhere."

Geoff Mayfield, the director of charts for Billboard, pointed out that Radiohead was not unique because singer-songwriter Jane Siberry offered a similar optional payment download a few years ago.

Radiohead has sold close to 9 million albums in the U.S., and three of its CDs have debuted in the top 10 on the Billboard album charts. The band has in effect made sure that won't happen with "In Rainbow" by taking its unorthodox approach.

The group has a reputation for daring, which has earned it "relationship fans," core loyalists who skew older, travel to see them play live and urgently seek out the latest release. Those fans, Mayfield said, are not the type to take the new music and leave the Radiohead "tip jar" empty.

"If that loyalty dictates consumer behavior," Mayfield said, "a good number are going to pay what's considered a fair price as opposed to 2 cents."

Several observers said all of that made this experiment far safer than it would be for a pop act that needed a major label to secure radio airplay and television exposure or an up-and-coming rock act that could not fall back on the receipts from sold-out arena shows.

"It's a road act with proven appeal, so as long as they have the right people to take care of touring logistics and the business end of getting music out to market, they might be able to make a go on their own," Mayfield said. "It wouldn't work for everyone. You don't want to be an amateur. We're in a brave new world, but you want to make sure dots connect in terms of getting the music out."

That brave new world is a harsh one for the traditional recording industry. The major labels that enjoyed huge profits in the 1980s as fans replaced their music collections with CDs have suffered over the last decade as a new generation instead plucked its hit songs from the Internet, often without paying for them. There have been steady declines in recent years. As of midyear 2007, CD sales were off 19.3% from the same period in 2006. And there's intense competition now from video games and DVDs.

But even as the old empire collapses, new ideas take hold. Though its cerebral soundscapes are avant art rock, Radiohead's earnest and emotionally plaintive ethos puts it in line with acts such as U2. That's why, according to Wired editor Nancy Miller, all eyes have been on the band at the career and marketplace crossroads.

"We've been waiting for just the right band at just the right moment," Miller said. "Right now is it. Radiohead is the perfect band. After finishing its contract, we expected something revolutionary. I thought they would start their own label. Instead, they have done something more interesting: They decided not to decide."

Some pundits weighed in saying that although Radiohead's move might have been a sharp detour for an established band, it was hardly a path newer acts could follow. Curtis, the Pearl Jam manager, said that years on a major label roster established the Radiohead brand and made it possible for it to buck the system.

"It's the newer bands I really feel sorry for," Curtis said.

Pearl Jam and other groups with intense followings, such as the Dave Matthews Band, R.E.M., Metallica and Nine Inch Nails, will probably learn the most from Radiohead's experience, Curtis said. "Everyone will keep an eye on this because this is the most exciting thing we've seen to this point."

On Monday, Radiohead was trying to deal with that excitement. Intense interest and pre-orders overwhelmed the website, according to Martin, the band spokesman. Wired's Miller, for one, predicted the band's gamble would pay off.

"We've seen the crumbling of bigger labels, but there haven't been any big 'Aha!' moments, that risky departure," Miller said. "It's an interesting move, a terrific example of an artist exerting a terrific amount of control. It's definitely going to be successful."
__________________
xaviMF22 is offline  
Old 10-02-2007, 09:05 AM   #745
Blue Crack Addict
 
joyfulgirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 16,615
Local Time: 06:25 PM


I actually think it's pretty cool.
__________________
joyfulgirl is offline  
Old 10-02-2007, 09:08 AM   #746
Blue Crack Addict
 
Dalton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Little hand says it's time to rock and roll.
Posts: 15,147
Local Time: 09:25 PM



Come on. You can DO it!
__________________
Dalton is offline  
Old 10-02-2007, 09:18 AM   #747
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
intedomine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 7,952
Local Time: 11:25 AM
REM better not go down the same road as Radiohead in this poncy digital-first release system, though they might indeed do so. We all know Stipe and Yorke are bum buddies.
__________________
intedomine is offline  
Old 10-02-2007, 10:05 AM   #748
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 13,414
Local Time: 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by xaviMF22


"I am all the things...that you choose to ignore"
I hate so much about the things that you choose to be.
__________________
impy13 is offline  
Old 10-02-2007, 12:12 PM   #749
Blue Crack Addict
 
Lancemc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ba Sing Se
Posts: 17,665
Local Time: 09:25 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by intedomine
REM better not go down the same road as Radiohead in this poncy digital-first release system, though they might indeed do so. We all know Stipe and Yorke are bum buddies.
Poncy? You mean progressive? Yeah, god forbid old bands try to stay toe to toe with acts embracing the digital generation.
__________________
Lancemc is offline  
Old 10-02-2007, 01:18 PM   #750
Gunslinger
 
Roland of Gilead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Mid-World
Posts: 4,166
Local Time: 05:25 PM
Well, no one pays 0.00. There is a service charge involved. I went and paid $9 Cdn total. I figure they can give me a better deal than iTunes, but I have no need to abuse the system. This way, "IF" that official cd release does happen next year I just might pay for that too and not feel that I've spent too much already. That box set is another story all together. There should of been a third release that did not include the lps. I would of been curious to see the price point of that.
__________________

__________________
"First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire." - Roland Deschain, of Gilead.
Roland of Gilead is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com