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Old 08-29-2003, 01:46 PM   #16
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They'll kick Ed out and replace him w/ a goat that's got a cazoo stuffed up it's ass. They'll record the goat farting/playing cazoo, reverse it, ad some delay, call it track 4 on the next record.
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I'm not EVEN going to get into this.
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I feel like one of the Pop haters here, but why is it a short attention span Micheal, that would be the reason people don't enjoy them?
Angela - I did not say that a short attention span is a reason for people not enjoying them. I simply said it could be a reason for people to find them alien, meandering, and not song-like. Those are two completely different things. I have no problem with people not liking radiohead songs. However, I do have a problem with the criticism that they don't write proper songs with song structure -- because if you listen to the songs, they have all the hooks and structure of the best pop songs; it's just packaged differently.
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I would like to hear a techno-jazz album from RH...that would be cool.
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I loved The Bends and OK, but HTTT is equally impressive, to say that Radiohead needs to start being a good band again is silly after you have seen them live...
Agreed to the live piece.



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They'll kick Ed out and replace him w/ a goat that's got a cazoo stuffed up it's ass. They'll record the goat farting/playing cazoo, reverse it, ad some delay, call it track 4 on the next record.
You know what...you just might be on to something here!

After track four comes out...I expect some good debate.
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Old 08-29-2003, 02:43 PM   #21
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They'll kick Ed out and replace him w/ a goat that's got a cazoo stuffed up it's ass. They'll record the goat farting/playing cazoo, reverse it, ad some delay, call it track 4 on the next record.


I should not have been taking a sip of cream soda when I read that...
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I would like to hear a techno-jazz album from RH...that would be cool.
If you listen to some of the instrumental segments from KidA, it seems a likely possibility.
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Angela - I did not say that a short attention span is a reason for people not enjoying them. I simply said it could be a reason for people to find them alien, meandering, and not song-like.
I've re-read your original post a few times and you actually did say that "a short attention span is a reason for people not enjoying them" instead of it being just a reason

personally I figured you meant it as being one of the possible reasons and I'm quite sure (though I shouldn't pretend that I know for sure) that mrs. La Harlem also knows that

but you did say it


so there
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I liked "There There." The most pop song on that album IMO whihc to me is lacking in pop moments.
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Haha thanks Salome and Michael. I wouldn't try to say your description was wrong MG, I don't know their music like you do. Though this 'unknown' on HTTT has me a tad curious.
Will Radiohead ever do cheery happy music you think?
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Radiohead and happy music equals Never in our lifetime.
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It's all in context. I found a lot of elements off HTTT to be quite upbeat, almost moments of elation (There There, Go To Sleep). Of course, the embedded sarcasm and tongue in cheek pessimism often overshadows any bright emotion.

Funny how it's so easy to criticize Radiohead for lacking a positive perspective... when often some critics proclaim U2's music to be too positive. I think most would agree, that is a fairly exaggerated statement... but it seems some of us can turn around duplicitously and use the same fallacious scripts on another band.
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when often some critics proclaim U2's music to be too positive.
umm, I don't read that many music magazines, so maybe that's the reason
but I can't say I've ever read that
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Hail is the one of the most poppy albums I've heard in a while. I can't believe more people don't see this. It's pop dressed up to sound unconventional...but all the hooks and the structures are still there.
Well I've heard "Go to Sleep" on the video channel four or five times, and not a single bit of it stuck in my memory. If there are any hooks there they're buried in what must be a musical equivalent of Mariana Trench.

I've heard people accuse U2's music of being too earnest or having too much breast-beating about it, I'm not sure if it's the same as "positive". A lot of their music is quite bloody depressing, the big difference is, it never sounds whiny-depressing (as a lot of Radiohead's music sounds to me).
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Pinball, they're merely observations. Not fallacious scripts, nor even criticisms.
Besides which, what some critic says about U2 being the opposite really bears little weight to this thread.
Maybe it is amusing, I don't know, but don't read too much into what the non Radiohead fans say. They're going to be mere observations for the most part. Not anything set to offend.
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