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Old 05-22-2003, 03:34 AM   #1
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BERKELEY, CA—Nineties punk Drew Tolbert, 29, expressed scorn Monday for the punks of today, denouncing them as "phony poseurs unworthy of the word 'punk.'"


Above: Tolbert, who flies the flag for classic '90s punk.
"These kids today have no idea what real punk is," said Tolbert, who called himself "Steve Spew" from 1992 until May 1999, when he was forced to revert to his real name to take a job at Roberto's Custom Auto Upholstery. "Those so-called punk bands they listen to today? Sum 41? Good Charlotte? The Ataris? They're not punk. Back in the day, man, we used to listen to the real deal: Rancid, The Offspring, NOFX, Green Day. Those guys were what true punk rock was all about. Today's stuff is just a pale, watered-down imitation. There's no comparison."

Recalling the glory days of the '90s, Tolbert waxed nostalgic for a few moments before condemning today's punks.

"They can talk all they want about how much punk means to them, but the simple fact is, they weren't there," Tolbert said. "These kids today have no sense of history. They don't know about Pennywise. They barely know about Epitaph Records. Most of them don't even know about Green Day's legendary appearance in '94 at the L.A. Coliseum. It was a watershed, one-of-a-kind moment in the history of youth rebellion, and if you didn't live through it, as I did, you'll never get it, no matter how punk you pretend to be."

Tolbert's disdain for the current punks encompasses not only their musical tastes, but also their style of dress.

"Punk is more than just a Mohawk hairstyle," Tolbert said. "For us back in the '90s, punk was a way of life. I see these kids today hanging around Gilman Street in their leather jackets with their wallet chains, and I just want to say to them, 'You think punk is a costume, man?' Back in'93, it was about so much more: It was a rebellion against outmoded belief systems. It was a cry of outrage against the repressive authority of the Clinton Administration."

"I saw some kid wearing a Sex Pistols T-shirt the other day—he couldn't have been more than 9 when the Pistols did their Filthy Lucre reunion tour," Tolbert said. "I was like, 'You can listen to the music, you can wear the T-shirt, but I was there.' I had fifth-row seats at that goddamn stadium, man, right up front, close enough to see Johnny Rotten's wrinkles. Did you see an original member of The Clash play during Big Audio Dynamite II's last tour? Did you see two of the four original Ramones play at the KROQ Weenie Roast in '95? You did not, but I did. I swear to God, they're like a joke, these people."


Above: Sum 41, a band Tolbert says "can't hold a candle to the greats of eight, nine years ago."
Tolbert, who dropped out of Berkeley Community College in 1993 to spend a year skateboarding and living off his parents, was once a major fixture of Berkeley's punk-revival scene, although he still rejects that label.

"'Punk revival'... what bullshit," Tolbert said. "Anybody who says punk was 'back' in the '90s doesn't know what they're talking about, because punk never went away. Sure, you didn't hear about it as much in the mainstream corporate media, but punk was always around for the true believers like me and my friends."

According to friends, the young Tolbert was a shy but well-respected member of his high school's yearbook staff before adopting a punk-rock stance upon his enrollment at the community college. He later formed a band, Absence Of Dissent, but the band broke up before completing any recordings or playing any gigs.

"We could've been huge," Tolbert said. "Bigger than New Bomb Turks, even. But all the greatest punk bands fell apart before their time. That's what happened to Darby Crash of the Germs, and that's what happened to us, except we didn't die of drug overdoses, and we came along about 15 years later. But the pretty-boy pretend punks of 2003 could never understand that."

"The thing I can't stand is when they get all self-righteous and act like I'm the one who doesn't 'get it,'" Tolbert continued. "That attitude is totally contrary to the whole inclusive spirit of what punk is all about."

Added Tolbert: "Don't try to be something you're not, man. That's what I say."
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"I saw some kid wearing a Sex Pistols T-shirt the other day—he couldn't have been more than 9 when the Pistols did their Filthy Lucre reunion tour," Tolbert said. "I was like, 'You can listen to the music, you can wear the T-shirt, but I was there.' I had fifth-row seats at that goddamn stadium, man, right up front, close enough to see Johnny Rotten's wrinkles.


Hilarity. God bless theoninon.

How sad an article, yet how absolutely true. I serioulsy have heard so many people say stuff like this...
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I've said stuff like that.

And I don't care if it sounds petty I will shout it from the roof tops:

SUM 41 IS NOT PUNK, AND NEITHER IS GOOD CHARLOTTE!

Bitches.
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What, Good Charlotte isnt? You mean hosting your own MTV program isnt a punk thing to do? What about New Found Glory, they rock!! They have a fat bass player, that rokz. They have facial piercings, that's hardcore!!!

I so want to see Good Charlotte and NFG on the Honda Civic tour with Taking Back Sunday. That would be the most hardcore thing ever!!! I'd be extra sure to buy some new clothes at Hot Topic before I went though!!! That way I'd be extra punk, just like everyone else there. MTV rulz.
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He makes his point, but why does he talk about 1994 like its 50 years ago????
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what a loser. what a fucking loser.

was he around when my bloody valentine played their legendary gig at the paris olympia? hell no! two hours of sheer shoegazing bliss, and i was there. sex pistols my ass. who needs a fat british idiot jumping about when we've got a bunch of guys who can stand absolutely still and play music?

and he probably thinks the jesus and mary chain are some kind of clothes store or something. punk? the clash was on sony. the pastels had their own record label. and he probably's never heard of sarah records either! what a wanker.

ah, the proverbial angry indie kid.
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Re: Punks come look at this...

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Back in the day, man, we used to listen to the real deal: Rancid, The Offspring, NOFX, Green Day. Those guys were what true punk rock was all about.
Really? I thought "true punks" hated Green Day, Rancid, the Offspring, etc. At least that's what Billie Jo will tell you on the Green Day Behind the Music.

Sounds to me like that guy has, to paraphrase, glorified the past because HIS future has dried up. I don't care for any of the new punk bands, but jeez, this guy really needs to get a life.
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i think some people are missing the point. it's an onion article!

god bless the onion.
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i think some people are missing the point. it's an onion article!

god bless the onion.


Mission accomplished!
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i think some people are missing the point. it's an onion article!

god bless the onion.
Which yet again proves my point that people dont read the other posts first before making their own posts.....
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God bless theoninon.


I did read the other posts, thank you very much. But I was unsure of whether or not "theoninon" meant the Onion, or what.
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Really quick I would like to point out how very punk rock Rancid is. Not so much the Green Day. To quote the San Fransisco Chronical "Green Day - Making Punk Safe For KIds."

Now lets all go to Hot Topic and buy some cheaply made bondage pants for $70.00!!!!
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Now lets all go to Hot Topic and buy some cheaply made bondage pants for $70.00!!!!
I thought we were boycotting pants!
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you're calling them trousers from now on, because i'm so bored with the usa. but the uk's not much better. 1977, i wanna go to heaven.
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Somewhere Joey Ramone and Sid Vicious are having a good laugh right now reading this.
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