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Old 12-09-2007, 01:42 PM   #16
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Blame the game (writers and directors), not the player.

I think the original SW movies will aways be credited for state of the art SF (of the time) and influencing SF in movies overall, just as LOTR will be credited for, say, Gollum. I think both ILM and WETA are amazing.
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Old 12-09-2007, 02:34 PM   #17
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Bottom line though, and this is the difference for me, I prefer Lucas's traditional, Ford & Kurosawa-inspired frame compositions to Jackson's ameteurish b-movie bag of tricks (the canted angles, "zombie-cam", overhead helicopter cam"). They are both storytellers of the highest order but I find SW functions better as capital-A art, an aspect that is rarely discussed when comparing the two.
Jackson is the New Zealand equivalent to Sam Raimi, which is probably why I enjoy Raimi's work with the Spidey series a hell of a lot more than Jackson's work with LOTR.

Speaking of effects, the "dead" army in Return of the King is so godly awful compared to the rest of the series. The library ghost in Ghostbusters looked better than those pieces of garbage.
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I hope the "dead" army pay you a visit after you go to sleep tonight, YLB. Tell them to their face how awful they are. You're fucked now.
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Cardboard and transparency sheets can't hurt me that much, bud.
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Good thing they're ghosts so they can't do shit to him.
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Good thing they're ghosts so they can't do shit to him.
I guess you weren't paying attention during ROTK. The ghosts fucked up anyone and anything in their path. You could be next, Lance, so check yourself before you wreck yourself.
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I guess you weren't paying attention during ROTK. The ghosts fucked up anyone and anything in their path. You could be next, Lance, so check yourself before you wreck yourself.
Oh I payed attention, and noticed that. Which is one of the bigger reasons why that film is a piece of shit.
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Oh I payed attention, and noticed that. Which is one of the bigger reasons why that film is a piece of shit.
"piece of shit" is a bit harsh, but, any scene involving these ghosts is pretty fucking weak.

But, YLB is pretty fucking weak.

Dwight Howard FTW.
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True. It's not a piece of shit.

But that's how I feel about it something. Overrated in every sense of the word.

Not as overrated as LMP though.
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It's funny that YLB is mostly thought of as a jack-ass, yet he's still overrated.

I'm a sucker for swords and sorcery and such, so, the trilogy gets extra ratings points from me almost automatically.

I still prefer Excalibur, for all its shitty effects.
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I'm obnoxious, dirty, and harassing actually.

Dwight Howard is still my best friend, though.
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Dwight Howard is also friends with Mr. Tumnus.
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That bastard is always stealing my socks.
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How about that sci-fi original miniseries Merlin, with Sam Neil. Now that was awesomely shitty.

Kind of like LMP, except Merlin was heavier on the awesome than on the shitty.
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I remember watching that with Lance's Mom.
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