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Old 03-08-2008, 11:41 PM   #391
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Old 03-08-2008, 11:43 PM   #392
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That's disg aceful! I'm esigning in p otest.... :g umpy:
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I think you can tell the difference in many cases. Songs like Mysterious Ways were clearly done and then added on to. Then you have songs like UTEOTW that they just fucked up. Then there's Please, which could have definitely been improved over time.
Mysterious Ways? That's one of the worst sounding songs on Achtung. I cannot listen to it. And I think it really lacks something without its live ending, much like One and "do you hear us coming?"

Yeah, Please definitely should've been better. I think that one's a production problem of not letting it breathe. In fact, the main Pop production issue is not that it's bad per se, e.g. there's no clipping or absolutely stupid levels, but that it lacks space for some songs.
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I am very curious about how much WUDM may (or may not) have changed since it was first conceived (was it around before the Zooropa sessions?)... I think it would almost have fit on Zooropa, with the samples and all, but thematically it goes much better at the ragged end of the journey that started with AB.
The line "wake up dead man" existed as early as 1990. It's in Take You Down, which became The Fly, Ultra Violet, and LWTSH.

My own personal theory, and I emphasise this is COMPLETELY BASELESS speculation with not a shred of fact to back it up, is that leading up to Zooropa, WUDM developed as a separate song, obviously with the title line and probably some of the lyrics floating around, but with completely different music. I'm guessing it, like HMTMKMKM, was too "rock" for Zooropa. Then as the years went on, they worked on it more and it just completely changed into what we know now. And in that time, they hid Van Diemen's Land deep in the mix and all kinds of other samples ...

Then again, I have to wonder if the samples were an earlier addition, at the same time as Babel at the start of Zooropa the song.
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Mysterious Ways? That's one of the worst sounding songs on Achtung. I cannot listen to it. And I think it really lacks something without its live ending, much like One and "do you hear us coming?"
MW live solo....

I am SO GLAD they did that in Melbourne. And that I was right on Edge's b-stage....


*wonders what people mean by having "space" and "breathing" on an album*
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*wonders what people mean by having "space" and "breathing" on an album*
maybe you need to have dead air in between the songs to give them room?
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The line "wake up dead man" existed as early as 1990. It's in Take You Down, which became The Fly, Ultra Violet, and LWTSH.
The wake up dead man line also appeared on She's Gonna Turn Your Head Around.
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And I'm just sending the U2:3 songs to you ...
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Then again, I have to wonder if the samples were an earlier addition, at the same time as Babel at the start of Zooropa the song.
I really do need to make a list of things to ask them....
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Mysterious Ways? That's one of the worst sounding songs on Achtung. I cannot listen to it. And I think it really lacks something without its live ending, much like One and "do you hear us coming?"

Yeah, Please definitely should've been better. I think that one's a production problem of not letting it breathe. In fact, the main Pop production issue is not that it's bad per se, e.g. there's no clipping or absolutely stupid levels, but that it lacks space for some songs.
But I'm not talking about from our standpoint: I'm saying in their view.
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*wonders what people mean by having "space" and "breathing" on an album*
The songs flow free of any sort of constraint. Like With Or Without You for example comes and goes without being forced. That's what people mean.
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The wake up dead man line also appeared on She's Gonna Turn Your Head Around.
The RAH or Axtung Beibi one? I don't actually have the RAH one, believe it or not (well, I have the Out-takes DVD, but never play it), and I don't listen to the Axtung Beibi one. I think Axtung Beibi is only worth it for Where Did It All Go Wrong?, early Acrobat, I Feel Free, Take You Down, and Backmask U2.
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