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Old 04-28-2008, 05:11 PM   #106
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Zoots you step on the gas and 'accelerate'...I will send a screaming 'yeah' to you...

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That's a good question. I was just thinking about them a while ago, after I'd posted about Priest et al.

I don't think they were exactly hair metal, but then, I don't think they were pure metal, either. A hybrid of the two, maybe?

Damned Germans, so tough categorize!
Well they're 'Pop Metal' and 'Hard Rock' for sure...right? I just love the twin guitar attack and something about Klaus' voice makes me raise my fist and say "Yeah"...I haven't seen them live in 9 years though...
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Well they're 'Pop Metal' and 'Hard Rock' for sure...right? I just love the twin guitar attack and something about Klaus' voice makes me raise my fist and say "Yeah"...I haven't seen them live in 9 years though...
Definitely. I still listen to a couple of their singles on occasion. Rock You Like a Hurricane, Still Loving You, No One Like You - they're like a guilty pleasure for me.

I think part of your definition of hair metal, the part about being appealing to a female audience, is true. I don't think the Scorpions really consciously went for that appeal the way other bands did. They have a bit more of an edge than hair metal did.
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Definitely. I still listen to a couple of their singles on occasion. Rock You Like a Hurricane, Still Loving You, No One Like You - they're like a guilty pleasure for me.

I think part of your definition of hair metal, the part about being appealing to a female audience, is true. I don't think the Scorpions really consciously went for that appeal the way other bands did. They have a bit more of an edge than hair metal did.
Uh, they're too ugly to appeal to women...

They had no choice to but to have that 'edge' you so eloquently spoke of...
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Uh, they're too ugly to appeal to women...

They had no choice to but to have that 'edge' you so eloquently spoke of...
Well, yeah, that too. Hair metal did have the prerequisite of having at least one or two pretty boys in the band. And the Scorpions certainly didn't qualify by that standard.
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Thank you (and Zoots) for keeping this thread, which is dear to my heart, alive.

Question: Do we lump mid-80's Aerosmith into the Hair Metal category...
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Thank you (and Zoots) for keeping this thread, which is dear to my heart, alive.

Question: Do we lump mid-80's Aerosmith into the Hair Metal category...
Y'know, I don't think I would. I think they're more straight up blues-based rock.

(this really appeals to the categorization geek in me )
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No way is Aerosmith even remotely hair metal! (or even metal for that matter!)
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I know, that's why I'm going with it...

Yes, I agree with you overall, but for a period, 1987 - 1990, I think you could classify them as "Hair Metal"...and I'm basing that on:

1) Their look (see the 'Dude Looks Like A Lady' video)
2) Songs (listen to 'Love In An Elevator' and the power ballad 'Angel')

Am I straining to make my case...
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Is Def Leppard hair metal? Really?

What about Iron Maiden then?

Can I Play With Madness?!!

...or The Clairvoyant.
Maiden (my 3rd favorite band) are really not hair metal (i.e. no power ballads except Wasting Love, no sex-drugs-rock n' roll lyrics and style). And I think they're far from cheesy lyrics (Rime of the Ancient Mariner of Alexander the Great )... and also Steve Harris spandex pants rocks


Both (Maiden and Def Leppard) came from NWOBHM at the beginning of the 80s but Leppard went hair metal after their debut album
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I know, that's why I'm going with it...

Yes, I agree with you overall, but for a period, 1987 - 1990, I think you could classify them as "Hair Metal"...and I'm basing that on:

1) Their look (see the 'Dude Looks Like A Lady' video)
2) Songs (listen to 'Love In An Elevator' and the power ballad 'Angel')

Am I straining to make my case...
You are.

Has their look even changed in the last 80 years? I can't really remember anything specific to that period that would be counted as unique, but then again, it's probably been decades since I've seen it.

The songs you're speaking of, Elevator just sounds like typical Aerosmith v 2.0 to me. I suppose an argument could be made for Angel, but I think they just put that out to be radio-friendly at the time, to help them along in their comeback efforts, I don't think it necessarily reflected their overall sound.
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Maiden are really not hair metal (i.e. no power ballads except Wasting Love, no sex-drugs-rock n' roll lyrics and style)

Both (Maiden and Def Leppard) came from NWOBHM at the beginning of the 80s but Leppard went hair metal after their debut album
Yeah, Lep hit the tail end of NWOBHM, and I have to say, that they were never anything like Maiden, Priest, Angel Witch, Venom, Tygers Of Pan Tang or any of those other NWOBHM bands...am I right...

*edit* Leppard was there from the start, but they brand of 'metal' was even lite then...
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You are.

Has their look even changed in the last 80 years? I can't really remember anything specific to that period that would be counted as unique, but then again, it's probably been decades since I've seen it.

The songs you're speaking of, Elevator just sounds like typical Aerosmith v 2.0 to me. I suppose an argument could be made for Angel, but I think they just put that out to be radio-friendly at the time, to help them along in their comeback efforts, I don't think it necessarily reflected their overall sound.
True, and so now the real question G n' R...Hair Metal or a different animal altogether...
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Yeah, Lep hit the tail end of NWOBHM, and I have to say, that they were never anything like Maiden, Priest, Angel Witch, Venom, Tygers Of Pan Tang or any of those other NWOBHM bands...am I right...

*edit* Leppard was there from the start, but they brand of 'metal' was even lite then...
Yeah, they were definitely more melodic than those other bands, even on On Through the Night and High and Dry.
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