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Old 11-16-2007, 02:14 PM   #31
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:25 PM   #33
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is there a difference between hair metal and heavy metal?
Hair Metal sucked a little bit more.


I'd say: Hair Metal is usually applied to bands that were more about image - Poison, Warrant, Trixter. Heavy Metal was more of a musical genre. I don't know that I'd consider most of the hair metal bands as actually playing heavy metal music - Slayer, Metallica, Anthrax - those were heavy metal bands to me. But ask 50 different people and you'll get 50 different answers. That's why we have VH1.

Bands like GnR and Def Leppard are usually lumped into Hair Metal, but I don't think that's accurate. They were more hard rock, and GnR was almost punk at times, bluesy at other times. Rarely metal though.
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Hair Metal sucked a little bit more.


I'd say: Hair Metal is usually applied to bands that were more about image - Poison, Warrant, Trixter. Heavy Metal was more of a musical genre. I don't know that I'd consider most of the hair metal bands as actually playing heavy metal music - Slayer, Metallica, Anthrax - those were heavy metal bands to me. But ask 50 different people and you'll get 50 different answers. That's why we have VH1.
ah, but which one has better flow?
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:27 PM   #35
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ah, but which one has better flow?
huh?
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so then Europe's "Final Countdown" counts?
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so then Europe's "Final Countdown" counts?
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.................. YES we will accept that!
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so then Europe's "Final Countdown" counts?
That's like the Anthem.
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sweet. then that's my pick.
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is there a difference between hair metal and heavy metal?
Historically speaking no. In the 80's there was no such term as hair metal or glam metal etc. It was all heavy metal. Hair metal as a 90's creation coming along later to differentiate it from acts like Metallica.
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sweet. then that's my pick.
Did you know your little sig dancer guys line up perfectly with the Phunk Phorce mix of MOFO? Just thought you should know..
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In the 80's there was no such term as hair metal or glam metal etc.
This is a bit of a strange thing to debate but I absolutely remember calling it glam in the 80's. Glam rock, hair bands. We used those terms, especially in the late 80's.
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I'll second that. We were making fun of Warrant, Bon Jovi, Poison, Winger, Skid Row, etc. as glam rock/cheese metal/hair metal long before the 90's rolled around. Poison's first album came out when I was a freshman in High School in 1986, same with Slippery When Wet if I'm not mistaken.

Guns 'n' Roses were never considered part of glam rock because they weren't meticulously coiffed, and had an element of danger that wasn't present in ANY of those other bands.

The real question is how to classify Motley Crue. Personally I feel they sold out with Girls Girls Girls and lost any credibility they may have had with the "satanic" Shout at the Devil and follow up Theatre of Pain. A less flashy glam rock band but watered-down and musically similar to all the rest.

Def Leppard is a strange one--they're not really hard enough to be metal, but they had these cool album covers and didn't really sound like the other glam bands. Plus, stuff like Photograph from 1983 was just as poppy as the later stuff. They're really more like Van Halen than anything else, which I guess does make them hard rock.

Apparently Wikipedia agrees with me. I just checked and you have Poison classified as Glam, Def Lep as hard rock. Then again they consider Winger "rock" so they're not exactly the authority.
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Guns 'n' Roses were never considered part of glam rock because they weren't meticulously coiffed, and had an element of danger that wasn't present in ANY of those other bands.

The real question is how to classify Motley Crue. Personally I feel they sold out with Girls Girls Girls and lost any credibility they may have had with the "satanic" Shout at the Devil and follow up Theatre of Pain. A less flashy glam rock band but watered-down and musically similar to all the rest.
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