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Old 03-24-2003, 12:00 PM   #181
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The point Diamond was making was that Catherine is an example wife for women worldwide to copy in order to keep their husbands happy.
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fuck that...im not going to emulate anyone just to make my future guy happy.

women need to be themselves, and not cardboard copies of other 'examples'. and if the guys dont like it...they can go to hell.
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if anything Im really really happy for the couple!

They love each other and respect each other, I dont know why pple fuss!

Im very happy for them, and hope Catherine gives birth to a healthy baby!

Oh and how cool was it to see father and son on stage together!!!!


I'll bet the baby will be very cute.
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I'm so sick of all the hype surrounding Chicago, there were 4 much better films nominated for the Best Picture award. But Chicago is an obvious, easy and uncontroversial choice, showing the Academy are as predictable as ever, and displaying their biases against certain types of films.

so true

and really lame
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Adrien Brody is hot, but he went on way too long. And actors who think they're too important to get cut off at the 45 seconds annoy the hell out of me. Like, get off the stage already.
i know. it wouldn't have mattered if it had been bono up there blabbering about them winning the oscar for best song, i hate it when people (especially when it's their first nomination!) suddenly think they're so important that they can control when the show will go on. he sounded so humble at the beginning of his speech it made me happy for him, that as he got seemingly cockier throughout the speech, i was hoping he'd fall as he walked away from the podium or something.

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I'm really disgusted by the Eminem and Roman Polanski wins. When the academy chooses to award a known gay/women/etc. basher and a child molester, that's when I have to take a step back.
yeah. i'm if anything shocked by eminem winning just because i thought he'd be the one who surely wouldn't win. i mean, after them asking him to tone it down, and then him saying he just won't come at all, i thought for sure that in addition to all the other controversy surrounding him that surely he wouldn't win. i guess i consider myself a fan, although i must admit this isn't one of my favourite songs. he's made better.

as for roman, as someone else said, it really isn't right to mix personal opinions with business. but, didn't he drug and rape her? if anything, i just think he's a fucking asshole and a coward, for doing it, and for fleeing the country. i was so hoping when he won that he would show up to accept it, so he could get arrested. i'd feel that way about anyone who did such a thing, regardless of their fame. i didn't see the movie, so i have no idea how great it is really.
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as for roman, as someone else said, it really isn't right to mix personal opinions with business. but, didn't he drug and rape her? if anything, i just think he's a fucking asshole and a coward, for doing it, and for fleeing the country. i was so hoping when he won that he would show up to accept it, so he could get arrested. i'd feel that way about anyone who did such a thing, regardless of their fame. i didn't see the movie, so i have no idea how great it is really.
Maybe instead of mailing Polanski his Oscar they should tell him if he wants it he can come to L.A. to get it.
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I did too think U2 had it......but just because they didnt get it, doesnt mean they didnt win according to us lot here at Interland, right?
Oh so right maddie. They are winners to us.

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I'm so sick of all the hype surrounding Chicago, there were 4 much better films nominated for the Best Picture award. But Chicago is an obvious, easy and uncontroversial choice, showing the Academy are as predictable as ever, and displaying their biases against certain types of films.

Likewise there were better nominees for Supporting Actress, I'm not quite sure how bad singing from a frankly mediocre actress is enough to win the award.
How is Chicago's win predictable? By honouring a musical, as opposed to a drama, the academy went against precident. Moulin Rouge, also a musical, did not win last year. The past winners have all been dramas; A Beautiful Mind, Gladiator, American Beauty, Shakespeare in Love (sort of a comedy), Titanic, The English Patient, Braveheart, Schindler's List. How does Chicago follow any pattern here? Why does the best picture have to be controversial? Can a great film not just be appreciated for being a feel-good movie? In the age of Prozac and Valium can we not appreciate the value of a laugh or a song?

Granted, I believe the bias was shown toward Scorcese. However, I don't think that Chicago is really as bad as you make it sound.

As for Catherine, I haven't found any flaw with her performance. Her singing was/is phenomenal. Trust me. I've worked with dancers/singers/actresses before--Catherine's vocal performance was outstanding. Her live talents, as evidenced by last night, show that she is no 'fluke' but rather, quite a talented woman. You know of other Hoolywood stars (save Bebe Neuwirth) who really could have done better, and pulled it off with that much class?
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To be succinct;

1) I thought Michael Moore's outburst was distasteful. It is true, you are free to say whatever you want and Lord knows I don't support the war, but there were plenty of other speakers last night who spoke their mind subtly, eloquently and rather movingly, I thought. Michael Moore's outburst was unintelligible, boorish, loud, arrogant and frenzied. Which is a terrible shame, since it compromises not only his work but his award. I did enjoy 'Bowling for Columbine', but I far from enjoyed his speech.

2) I do agree that had he not mentioned the elections, he would not have been booed.

3) Having said that, though, there were plenty of cheers when he started his speech, and a few when he mentioned the elections; but by then, of course, the Boo's were getting louder - and I actually don't blame them. He was ruining what was a perfectly decent ceremony.

4) I am glad Eminem won because 'Lose Yourself' is a far superior song to 'Hands'. Believe me, this is excruciatingly hard for me to say, as I love U2 and hate Eminem - but the truth is that Eminem wrote the better song. However, I did enjoy U2's performance of the song, and didn't denote anything that resembled a 'charade'. Sure, Bono changed the lyrics; but he's always doing that anyway.

5) Steve Martin wasn't all that funny, I felt. Whoopi Goldberg was funnier.

6) I was disappointed that the Oscars went all 'medicinal' and opted to give 'The Pianist' all the awards for Director and Actor. I liked Adrien Brody's speech (which, incidentally, was intended to be an anti-war speech - Brody is a relatively less consipicuous anti-war protester, and given the nature of the film - it was just tastefully done and unified people by saying that they all should 'pray for peace', that is the way Moore should have done it), but I thought Daniel Day Lewis should have won. And Martin Scorsese. Talk about being passed over. And again. And again...

7) 'Chicago' received too many oscars.

8) 'Gangs of New York' didn't get any.

9) Glad to see Nicole Kidman get the award she should have recieved ages ago. Y que viva mexico! I was so happy to see Elliot Goldenthal win for his wonderful score for 'Frida', and I was delighted when he offered it to the Mexican artistic culture. I was also very proud of Salma Hayek, who, even though she didn't win, was the first Mexican actress to get nominated for the award.

10) All in all, a very tasteful ceremony. Yes, there were anti-war sentiments running high, but they were all (with the exception of Mr. Moore's rowdiness) very tastefully and respecfully pulled off. Though I did fear at one point Dustin Hoffman was going to stop mid-speech and start a crazed rant. He was evidently moved.

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How is Chicago's win predictable? By honouring a musical, as opposed to a drama, the academy went against precident. Moulin Rouge, also a musical, did not win last year. The past winners have all been dramas; A Beautiful Mind, Gladiator, American Beauty, Shakespeare in Love (sort of a comedy), Titanic, The English Patient, Braveheart, Schindler's List. How does Chicago follow any pattern here? Why does the best picture have to be controversial? Can a great film not just be appreciated for being a feel-good movie? In the age of Prozac and Valium can we not appreciate the value of a laugh or a song?

Granted, I believe the bias was shown toward Scorcese. However, I don't think that Chicago is really as bad as you make it sound.

As for Catherine, I haven't found any flaw with her performance. Her singing was/is phenomenal. Trust me. I've worked with dancers/singers/actresses before--Catherine's vocal performance was outstanding. Her live talents, as evidenced by last night, show that she is no 'fluke' but rather, quite a talented woman. You know of other Hoolywood stars (save Bebe Neuwirth) who really could have done better, and pulled it off with that much class?

Well said. I thought Chicago was very deserving - a splendid film.
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How is Chicago's win predictable? By honouring a musical, as opposed to a drama, the academy went against precident. Moulin Rouge, also a musical, did not win last year. The past winners have all been dramas; A Beautiful Mind, Gladiator, American Beauty, Shakespeare in Love (sort of a comedy), Titanic, The English Patient, Braveheart, Schindler's List. How does Chicago follow any pattern here? Why does the best picture have to be controversial? Can a great film not just be appreciated for being a feel-good movie? In the age of Prozac and Valium can we not appreciate the value of a laugh or a song?

Granted, I believe the bias was shown toward Scorcese. However, I don't think that Chicago is really as bad as you make it sound.

As for Catherine, I haven't found any flaw with her performance. Her singing was/is phenomenal. Trust me. I've worked with dancers/singers/actresses before--Catherine's vocal performance was outstanding. Her live talents, as evidenced by last night, show that she is no 'fluke' but rather, quite a talented woman. You know of other Hoolywood stars (save Bebe Neuwirth) who really could have done better, and pulled it off with that much class?
Of course its predictable, I would've bet my house on it. Its exactly the sort of film the Academy will favour, not because its a musical, but because of the style in which its made, and the people involved in making it. Its glitzy, its glamourous, its feel-good, the Academy love this stuff. I'm not saying its a bad film, just that ALL of the other nominees were better films. Most real film fans would agree with me

There were only two films in the best film category that didnt have any bias against them. The Pianist was dogged by the press smear campaign, though Polanski and Brody couldnt be ignored and still received awards. Gangs also suffered press problems and ridiculously walked away empty-handed. And The Two Towers was never going to win, also it is the best film nominated, its just not the sort of film that wins the big oscars. The Academy really need to broaden their horizons a little.
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Of course its predictable, I would've bet my house on it. Its exactly the sort of film the Academy will favour, not because its a musical, but because of the style in which its made, and the people involved in making it. Its glitzy, its glamourous, its feel-good, the Academy love this stuff. I'm not saying its a bad film, just that ALL of the other nominees were better films. Most real film fans would agree with me

Academy loves glitzy, glamourous? Look at the past winners:
A Beautiful Mind, Gladiator, American Beauty, Shakespeare in Love, Titanic, The English Patient, Braveheart, Schindler's List. Granted, Gladiator, Shakespeare, Titanic, and maybe Braveheart are BIG movies, large casts, special effects, but glitz and glamour and razzle dazzle? I don't see it.

For the record, just because I enjoyed Chicago and didn't think ALL the nominees were better films (maybe some, not all) doesn't mean that 'm not a 'real' film fan. We can have varied tastes and opinions, but still be educated, intelligent, informed, critical, 'real' movie fans.
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Dear god how could you think that nose and those eyebrows are hot?
He looks like a cartoon
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Maybe I'm on crack rock, but wooo I think he's
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i'm too lazy to read the whole thread, i don't know if someone answered this, a bunch of people were wearing the same pin brody has on his lapel. was there some significance to it?
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