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Old 06-27-2006, 07:06 PM   #1
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Pigs on the wing...

Just got Floyd's Animals to replace my old burned copy that disappeared mysteriously. Anyway, I was listening to the CD and began thinking about Waters' lyrics here.

On Pigs On The Wing 'Part 2' he says...

Now that I've found somewhere safe
To bury my bone
And any fool knows a dog needs a home
A shelter from pigs on the wing


So what does he mean? Dogs, who are the cunning back-stabbing villains at the beginning of the album have now become tame and need shelter?... from pigs? Or does the whole 'pigs on the wing' thing refer to flying pigs/impossibilities?

Or am I just reading too much into it?

Either way... brilliant album!

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Haven't got any thoughts on the meaning of the lyrics cos my brain is fried in the heat here, but i just saw that Animals cover and i just had to say i love the album to bits&have many memories of lidtening to it back in the 70's and i love Battersea power station (And people think that's weird yes! )

When is saw it for the first time when i was on the Eurostar, i just about had an orgasm!!! I'm sad eh!
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When i saw it for the first time when i was on the Eurostar, i just about had an orgasm!!!
I don't blame you one bit.

Come to think of it, it looks like an upside down pig doesn't it?... Well, kinda.
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I've been looking at the lyrics for the 5 songs on Animals and checking wikipedia, and it seems to me that the Dogs fear the Pigs from the very beginning, here's "Pigs on the Wings Pt. 1":

If you didn't care what happened to me,
and I didn't care for you,
we would zig zag our way through the boredom and pain,
occasionally glancing up through the rain
wondering which of the buggers to blame
and watching for pigs on the wing.


The Dogs are those meglomaniacal businessmen who are burdened by the very weight they can throw around (money, corporations, etc...). And here are the Pigs, who are the corrupt politicians and moralists that conflict direcetly with the Dogs, until the Pigs convinced the Sheep (general public), that the Dogs were evil and corrupt and rise against them.

The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green He leadeth me the silent waters by.
With bright knives He releaseth my soul.
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places.
He converteth me to lamb cutlets,
For lo, He hath great power, and great hunger.
When cometh the day we lowly ones,
Through quiet reflection, and great dedication
Master the art of karate,
Lo, we shall rise up,
And then we'll make the bugger's eyes water.

Bleating and babbling we fell on his neck with a scream.
Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.

Have you heard the news?
The dogs are dead!
You better stay home
And do as you're told.
Get out of the road if you want to grow old.


That first verse is spoken almost as a prayer, wanting to rise against the Dogs. The second and third verses are the actions of the Dogs being fought by the Sheep, thinking they'll have independence, only to be ruled by the Pigs.

This all parallels George Orwell's 1984, which of course was an allegory for the rise of Communism in Russia.

(I hope what I just spouted makes sense )
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I don't really have much more to add in terms of the general meaning, as LMP has that covered. The message of the album, in condensed form, is basically that no-one is safe from the pigs (the political and moral oppressors - Waters used Mary Whitehouse as an example in Pigs 3DO.) Not the dogs, not the sheep, not anyone.

However, there is hope amongst all this cynicism, which you see in the second part of Pigs On The Wing. People often miss the point of that song and unfairly label Animals as being too cynical when it actually isn't - the point is that if you know you've got someone who loves you and you know that you love her/him too, you can get through everything mentioned in Dogs, Pigs 3DO, and Sheep. Notice how in Pigs On The Wing (Part One), Waters says "If you didn't care what happened to me, and I didn't care for you, we would zig zag our way through the boredom and pain." If. Then he proceeds through with the three cynical songs in the centre of the album. With Part 2, the lyrics read "You know that I care what happens to you, and I know that you care for me too, so I don't feel alone or the weight of the stone." That "stone" is mentioned in Dogs, too: "So have a good drown as you go down all alone, dragged down by the stone." The stone is obviously a metaphor for all the things that can destroy you emotionally.

Pigs On The Wing used to be one song until it got split up for the album. Some of the more pro-Gilmour fans claim that this was just done so that Waters could get more money (PF royalties back then were based on the number of songs, not the length of the songs) but I think it's fairly obvious why it was split up - to support the theme of the album. Part one sets the scene for a world where people don't care for one another, which is then further developed by the three songs that follow it. Part two is the counterbalance, I think, the section that provides hope in the face of all the evil mentioned in the previous three songs. Absolutely essential then, that Pigs On The Wing was split up.

Anyway, whatever Animals means, I think there's no doubt that it's an absolutely incredible album.

EDIT: Blargh, I hate typing too quickly for my thoughts.
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arent the songs Pings on the Wing Part 1&2 about Roger's wife?
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Re: Pigs on the wing...

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Originally posted by Zootlesque
Just got Floyd's Animals to replace my old burned copy that disappeared mysteriously. Anyway, I was listening to the CD and began thinking about Waters' lyrics here.

On Pigs On The Wing 'Part 2' he says...

Now that I've found somewhere safe
To bury my bone
And any fool knows a dog needs a home
A shelter from pigs on the wing


So what does he mean? Dogs, who are the cunning back-stabbing villains at the beginning of the album have now become tame and need shelter?... from pigs? Or does the whole 'pigs on the wing' thing refer to flying pigs/impossibilities?

Or am I just reading too much into it?

Either way... brilliant album!


I think The line about the dog needing a home refers to the fact he thinks of himself as a bit of a dog.

Edit... brilliant album Dogs and sheep being two of the best .
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arent the songs Pings on the Wing Part 1&2 about Roger's wife?
Well, Roger probably wrote it with his wife at the time in mind, but both parts and their meanings are still ambiguous enough that they can apply to people in general. I don't think it's only about her and that's that. Has to relate to the overall theme. It's interesting, though, that Waters might be labelling himself as one of the dogs. Makes sense, in a way. There are even some lines at the end of Dogs itself that could apply to him. For instance: "Who was born in a house full of pain?"

I love analysing lyrics, especially when the lyrics are complex enough to actually analyse. Part of what makes Pink Floyd circa 1968-1983 so fun to be a fan of.
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Either way, it's a killer album. I've never tried to analyze it, but it's definately among my top 5 desert island discs.
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now that you mention the words "Desert" and "Island"

make sure you guys place your votes in the Desert Island thread, preferrably for yours truly.
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now that you mention the words "Desert" and "Island"

make sure you guys place your votes in the Desert Island thread, preferrably for yours truly.
I already have.
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LMP & Gibby, thanks for your detailed responses!

Wow. I knew the basic concept of the album as to what the dogs, pigs and sheep represented but had no idea about the sheep revolting against the dogs and such. I haven't read Orwell's 1984 although I would like to.
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Oh, my mistake, I meant Animal Farm.

same author, wrong book.

Animal Farm is really a great book, and is even better WHILE listening to Animals.

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